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Re: B.C. judge certifies class-action suit for men denied gambling winnings


From: Dan White <dwhite () olp net>
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 08:43:56 -0600

On 01/12/13 11:29 -0800, Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah wrote:
Date sent:              Sat, 12 Jan 2013 06:45:23 -0500
From:                   Jeffrey Walton <noloader () gmail com>

How do lotteries and casinos work in Canada?

Gaming is regulated by the provinces.  In most, gaming licences are granted but
dependent upon a certain proportion of the money going to charity.

Do lottery agents and
casinos make you sign a self-exclusion agreement before playing?

Note the word "voluntary."  Note the phrase "self-exclusion."  This was a
program intended to address problem gamblers.  You could (voluntarily) sign a self-
exclusion agreement, which meant that you couldn't collect any winnings.  Thus,
no incentive to gamble, so most people wouldn't.  (No, I don't know how it is
policed.)  Obviously, these guys signed the agreement as problem gamblers, but
then started to think they could "game" the system.

And this week, B.C. Supreme Court Justice John Savage ruled there were
sufficient grounds to certify a class-action for winners denied
because they were in the self-exclusion program.

I suppose there must be some legal reason why the suit was OKed, but it seems
stupid.  They agreed not to collect: they didn't collect.

Freakonomics Radio covered this topic (the voluntary self-exclusion
document, not the suit) the other day on my local NPR station.
Unfortunately I can't find the podcast.

In that particular case, a gambling addict signed an agreement in the state
of Missouri to never enter a casino again. He stopped for a while, then
found a loophole, then got caught and was arrested for trespassing. Sounds
like a different agreement was used in the above case.

--
Dan White
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