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Re: 95% of User Generated Content is spam or malicious


From: Dan Kaminsky <dan () doxpara com>
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 08:42:19 -0500

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Rich Kulawiec <rsk () gsp org> wrote:
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 07:34:56AM -0500, Dan Kaminsky wrote:
All I know is that I have a couple of email accounts that get
negligible amounts of spam.  Oh, they're *sent* huge amounts, but they
receive almost none.

But this is not the only metric with which to evaluate mail defenses.

I disagree.  This is the only metric that matters:  In 2007, I got a
lot of spam.  In 2010, I get a few messages *a month*.

A MONTH!

Anyway, one of the direct consequences of this reality is that testing
methodologies need to be very carefully constructed.  Anyone who
just plugs boxes from vendors X Y and Z into their network and does a
head-to-head comparison is not going to get a true picture of how those
systems really compare: they're only going to get a limited picture of how
those systems compare at the moment on their network(s) on their ASN(s)
with their domain(s).

Spam fighting as a product seems to be having problems.  Spam fighting
as a service is doing extremely well.

Who knows.  Maybe the bad guys are reverse engineering all the
products, but can't do the same to the services.

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