Re: Was the ClimateGate Hacker Justified? Join the Debate!

[Gadi Evron <ge () linuxbox org>]

Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:11:10 +0200, Gadi Evron said:
>
> > Dude, some of it is obviously out of context, and some of it can be 
> > explained away as terminology. But some emails CLEARLY state to delete 
> > data for the sole purpose of hiding it from the denialist "idiots", 
> > rather than any other reason. The emails have been verified as true.
>
> OK Gadi, if I had sent you a link to this photo:
>
> http://www.xenophilia.com/zb/zb0008/essa-7-19681123.jpg
>
> and attached the text "Don't let the hollow-earther idiots see this, they'll
> jump all over it", would I be part of the conspiracy trying to conceal the
> existence of a hollow earth?  Just sayin'...
>
> Yes, you know and I know that it's a composite of multiple pictures, and
> the dark area is the North Pole being in shadow all day (the picture being
> from November).  But yes, some idiots who didn't understand it was a composite
> or the fact the earth's axis is tilted stilljumped on it...
>
> http://www.xenophilia.com/zb0008f.htm
>
> Man, if I had a dollar for every time in the last 30 years I've said something
> like "Whatever you do, don't let upper management see the data till after I've
> applied the corrections for A, B, and C, because they'll just look at it and
> get the totally wrong idea, wait till I have some Powerpoints with the
> filtered data".
>
> Anybody on this list (a) *not* ever sent a memo like that and (b) has been in
> this business more than a year? ;)

Have you been caught? Did you just spin the data by framing it, or lie 
about it completely? Did you sin to being a scientist and lose your 
moral highground? Have you conspired in EMAIL?

If you answered yes to 2 of these...

And we are not talking about whether the politics of the scientists were 
well played, or horrendous. We speak of the hacker.

        Gadi.
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