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Re: Any ideas?
From: "Richard Golodner" <rgolodner () infratection com>
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 01:37:27 -0500
Robert said to me:
" I'm sure if you ping the 10.10.167.40, you'll find that it's only a
couple hops away. I am in Chicago now and using Visual Route's trial edition it tells me 10.10.167.40 can be found in Australia. Here is the trace: Address of Hop Name of Hop Location 10.10.10.1 (unnamed) (Private) (My inside interface) my comment 10.20.0.1 (unnamed) (Private) (RCN DHCP server) my comment 207.229.191.130 mart-h1.chi-mart.il.cable.rcn.net Herndon, VA, USA 207.172.19.41 ge0-0-2.core1.chsl.il.rcn.net Herndon, VA, USA 207.172.19.151 ge3-2.core1.sbo.ma.rcn.net Worcester, MA, USA 207.172.15.114 ge4-1.core2.sbo.ma.rcn.net Worcester, MA, USA 207.172.19.37 pos5-0.core2.nyw.ny.rcn.net New York, NY, USA 207.172.15.67 tge1-2.core4.nyw.ny.rcn.net New York, NY, USA 207.172.19.107 tge2-1.aggr1.nyw.ny.rcn.net New York, NY, USA - (unnamed) (An unnnamed hop) my comment 10.10.167.40 (unnamed) (Private) Australia according to Visual Route's location service I have not been able to confirm this. I do appreciate your help and hope that this stimulates some more ideas as I am perplexed. Richard -----Original Message----- From: Robert Graham [mailto:robert_david_graham () yahoo com] Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 1:15 AM To: funsec () linuxbox org; Richard Golodner Subject: Re: [funsec] Any ideas? RFCs are not the law. You can break them. I use so-called routable/non-private (although not allocated) addresses for my internal network. ISPs route non-routable/private addresses. Specifically, they use such addresses as part of their management network: they assign private addresses in the 10.x.x.x space to routers, modems, etc.
From what I understand, cable-modem providers give a 10.x.x.x address to
their cable-modems for management purposes. I believe the last time I had a cable modem, I saw these 10.x.x.x addresses exposed on my Ethernet. I run traceroute through my tethered cellphone, and find that the phone company assigns 192.168.x.x addresses to routers. nmap scans confirm other machines in that so-called "private" "non-routable" range. --- On Fri, 4/3/09, Richard Golodner <rgolodner () infratection com> wrote:
From: Richard Golodner <rgolodner () infratection com> Subject: [funsec] Any ideas? To: funsec () linuxbox org Date: Friday, April 3, 2009, 2:44 PM When I do: Show IP Nat Translations, I see this coming from my wife's laptop. Pro Inside global Inside local Outside local Outside global tcp 24.148.6x.xxx:2022 10.10.10.98:2022 10.10.167.40:2967 10.10.167.40:2967 How does this 1918 address space route across the internet? 10.10.10.98 is her machine. Any ideas are welcome and there are no chat programs allowed on our (MY) LAN, so I have ruled that out. Thank you and have a great weekend, Richard _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Any ideas? Richard Golodner (Apr 03)
- Re: Any ideas? Robert Graham (Apr 03)
- Re: Any ideas? Richard Golodner (Apr 03)
- Re: Any ideas? Valdis . Kletnieks (Apr 04)
- Re: Any ideas? Richard Golodner (Apr 04)
- Re: Any ideas? Robert Graham (Apr 05)
- Re: Any ideas? Richard Golodner (Apr 03)
- Re: Any ideas? Robert Graham (Apr 03)
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