funsec mailing list archives
Re: has Georgia lied?
From: "Kyle C. Quest" <kyle.c.quest () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:10:56 -0400
They sure did. Their media campaign was brutal and very effective at twisting facts and spreading misinformation. It was one of the few tools they had to rely on given the military force mismatch. Their initial assumption about the western military support didn't work. When they declared themselves our (US) ally and sent their troops to Iraq they thought it guaranteed them military support from the US and other NATO countries, but it didn't. Their only choice was to create a media picture of how a young freedom loving democracy is being destroyed by a big scary monster to rally international support, so it could result in a military intervention. Even though the media campaign was very effective especially here in the US where the Georgian president's words would spread like fire across all major media in the end it didn't have the desired effect. They managed to rally only the Russia hating countries of Poland, Estonia, and Ukraine (where in certain parts of their countries you'll be verbally abused and even physically assaulted by simply speaking Russian language). The western countries simply realized that it just wasn't worth to start a World War 3 because Georia decided to borrow Serbia's playbook on Kosovo. What's surprising is that even with this pro-Georgia coverage here in the States quite a few Americans managed to see that something just isn't right in that picture. Now... even though the conflict is winding down the Georgian media campaign is far from over. It's going into phase 2. Now that a number of radical groups of white and Russian speaking people are arriving from Poland, Estonia, and Ukraine they'll start staging Russian atrocities by dressing them in Russian uniforms and doing god knows what and then conveniently having media near by to document all that and then report it to the world. This is not something from a movie... It's a pretty effective tactic that's been used throughout history and we'll see it again... literally. I don't agree with the article on the winner number one. It might be more true in Europe, but here the story about the genocide against South Ossetian people is heavily downplayed. The official statements from our government shift the focus to other areas because they don't want South Ossetia to be looked at as Kosovo. The president says that "the response was disproportional", which means that there was a legitimate reason to act, but Russia went too far. And then Rice goes further implying that response wasn't even to protect South Ossetian people, but it was to overthrow the Georgian government because to her it didn't make sense why Russians would go after targets that are not physically located withing South Ossetia (anybody who knows something about military tactics or war in general knows that you don't just block a punch and then do nothing assuming that the enemy will give up; remember how Israel was shelled by rockets from Lebanon... the attackers didn't even need to be located within Israel to attack Israel; did Israel try to overthrow Lebanon's government when they went after their attackers...). Either way, the story is not over and we'll hear and see a lot in the coming days and months. Not all of it will be true, but it never is... no matter who is involved. On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 7:43 AM, Gadi Evron <ge () linuxbox org> wrote:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article4518254.ece _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
_______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Current thread:
- has Georgia lied? Gadi Evron (Aug 13)
- Re: has Georgia lied? Kyle C. Quest (Aug 13)
- Re: has Georgia lied? Viktor Larionov (Aug 13)
- Re: has Georgia lied? Kyle C. Quest (Aug 13)
- Re: has Georgia lied? Viktor Larionov (Aug 13)
- Re: has Georgia lied? Kyle C. Quest (Aug 13)