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Re: GSS warns that hackers can now destroy hardware


From: "Brian Loe" <knobdy () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 14:55:41 -0500

On 9/28/07, Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu <Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu> wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 14:27:03 CDT, Brian Loe said:

It was described as an actual lab setup complete with someone
"hacking" the system and causing the damage.

So a rigged demo. :)

What would constitute a non-rigged demo for you? Live, production systems?


                                               Around where I work, I'm
told this is not difficult to do - basically you could simply take
over on of the controller's windows boxen and destroy it the same as
he (the controller) would if he were negligent.

And how much is the average controller paid?  Sounds like "human error" would
be a bigger concern if you have low-pay low-motivation people watching it.

Uhmm...they're paid quite well, actually. They're in charge,
essentially, of the entire power plant - to include having the ability
to melt it down by screwing up. Its still monitored and controlled by
a windows system. We're not discussing human error, we're discussing
system security.


As for Iranian WMD, are you confusing Iran with Iraq?

If it's good enough for the Prez, it's good enough for me. :)

WTF are you talking about?!!?

Iranians will tell you they have potential for WMD, at least for
quasi-dirty bombs - and a delivery system (if you're in Israel). But I
haven't heard anyone complaining about that anyway. The only concern
I've heard is their potential for nuclear weapons - POTENTIAL. We
haven't confirmed anything.

Syria, it would seem, could have had WMD but it all went up in smoke last week.
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