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Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel
From: Drsolly <drsollyp () drsolly com>
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 21:22:04 +0100 (BST)
On Mon, 14 May 2007, Brian Loe wrote:
On 5/14/07, Drsolly <drsollyp () drsolly com> wrote:Solly - you have a prick? Should we arrest you now or wait to see if you actually rape someone?You really fail to understand, I guess, that when somoene recklessly endangers other people then he's crossed the line into *my* rights. And I think you might be uneducable.The law says .08 is "drunk". The only way a cop has to know of most drunk drivers is to pull them over for something else. By then they've committed a crime of some sort
Rubbish. Someone might drive into a tree. That's not a crime. But then if you test them for alcohol and find they're drunk, then they've been recklessly endangering everyone around them.
(I won't go into DUI check points as I find them extremely offensive to liberty and justice, as are NARC check points and prostitution stings). Could be reckless driving (crossing the center line, weaving, speeding, etc.), could be manslaughter. Whichever, that's when a crime has been committed. You've often stated that you enjoy visiting the pub, and having good beer. Do you walk? Does England not have a public intoxication law? Or public nuisance law?
It's very simple. If I drink, then I don't drive. If I'm driving, I don't drink. It's very simple, and very easy to do.
Once again, having the potential to do harm does not mean you are going to do harm.
Once again, there's such a thing as recklessly endangering other people. Getting tanked up and trying to control a ton of hurtling vehicle is just that. I suppose you'd be cool about someone firing a gun ionto a crowd of people, provided he was lucky enough to not actually hit anyone. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Drsolly (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel sam stover (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Brian Loe (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel sam stover (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Brian Loe (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Drsolly (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel sam stover (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Brian Loe (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Drsolly (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Brian Loe (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Drsolly (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Brian Loe (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Drsolly (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Andy Sutton (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Drsolly (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Andy Sutton (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Drsolly (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Andy Sutton (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Drsolly (May 14)
- RE: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Richard M. Smith (May 14)
- Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel Brian Loe (May 15)