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Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel


From: Drsolly <drsollyp () drsolly com>
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 21:22:04 +0100 (BST)

On Mon, 14 May 2007, Brian Loe wrote:

On 5/14/07, Drsolly <drsollyp () drsolly com> wrote:
Solly - you have a prick? Should we arrest you now or wait to see if
you actually rape someone?

You really fail to understand, I guess, that when somoene recklessly
endangers other people then he's crossed the line into *my* rights. And I
think you might be uneducable.


The law says .08 is "drunk".

The only way a cop has to know of most drunk drivers is to pull them
over for something else. By then they've committed a crime of some
sort

Rubbish. Someone might drive into a tree. That's not a crime. But then 
if you test them for alcohol and find they're drunk, then they've been 
recklessly endangering everyone around them.

(I won't go into DUI check points as I find them extremely
offensive to liberty and justice, as are NARC check points and
prostitution stings). Could be reckless driving (crossing the center
line, weaving, speeding, etc.), could be manslaughter. Whichever,
that's when a crime has been committed.

You've often stated that you enjoy visiting the pub, and having good
beer. Do you walk? Does England not have a public intoxication law? Or
public nuisance law?

It's very simple. If I drink, then I don't drive. If I'm driving, I don't 
drink. It's very simple, and very easy to do.
 
Once again, having the potential to do harm does not mean you are
going to do harm.
 
Once again, there's such a thing as recklessly endangering other people. 
Getting tanked up and trying to control a ton of hurtling vehicle is just 
that. 

I suppose you'd be cool about someone firing a gun ionto a crowd of 
people, provided he was lucky enough to not actually hit anyone.

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