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Re: Delicious Irony of the Day: BillOReilly.com DDoS'd
From: Drsolly <drsollyp () drsolly com>
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:16:47 +0000 (GMT)
On Sun, 11 Mar 2007, Chris Blask wrote:
At 03:25 PM 3/11/2007, Drsolly wrote:...now I miss that point. The state owns the property on my property and that is still somehow inalienable property rights for me, the citizen? Yes, I wish my property belonged to me, that being kinda the theme song of inalienable property rights...Likewise in this case. If you own a piece of land, there might be a right of way across it, in which case you don't have the right to put up a fence that blocks that right of way. There might also be a covenant to manitain your fences that you agreed to when you bought the property. It might also specify that another person has grazing rights on part of your property, and another one has the right to gather firewood. Now you might *wish* that you owned all those rights. But that doesn't mean you do, or that you should. However, the rights that you do have on your property, are inalienable.Hope that explains what I meant.I hear what you are saying, but the point is that the state in this case took so many of the rights that what was left is arguably without much value and does not represent "owning the land". By the
That just means "I want more rights than I currently have".
Victorian deed the holder of the property had the right to live on it, but owned neither what was above the soil nor what is below the soil. That does not leave a lot of room to inalienably own anything as far as real estate is concerned...
The fact that I don't own the air that I breathe, has never bothered me. And since I'm not trying to run a coal mine, if I don't have the right to dig a mine on my land, that doesn't bother me either. Although maybe I do have that right. Like I said, since I'm not prospecting for coal, I'm not bothered.
Fortunately those terms and conditions no longer apply, I can fell my own timber and dig my own sand. The Jon Stewart book "America, Democracy Inaction" has a great bit on this <sic> "Canada over decades of negotiation with the British Monarchy earned the right to dry cod on land in Canada". That's freedom for you! ;~)
No, it's capitalism. If you don't own the right to something, then you have to purchase that right, or swap it for something else, or negotiate something, or do without. I currently do not have the right to build an atomic power station on my land. Indeed, I don't even have the right to build seventeen more houses on my land. If I wanted either of those rights, I'd have to take action to acquire them, just like if I want a book, I have to go buy it. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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