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Re: [privacy] Want a beer at the pub? Have your prints taken
From: Drsolly <drsollyp () drsolly com>
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 13:05:25 +0100 (BST)
On Mon, 23 Oct 2006, sprite wrote:
On Sun, 22 Oct 2006, Gordon Darling wrote:<snip> Beer fingerprints to go UK-wide Yeovil, an example for us all By Mark Ballard Published Friday 20th October 2006 17:45 GMT The government is is funding the roll out of fingerprint security at the doors of pubs and clubs in major English cities. Funding is being offered to councils that want to have their pubs keep a regional black list of known trouble makers. The fingerprint network installed in February by South Somerset District Council in Yeovil drinking holesy is being used as the show case. "The Home Office have looked at our system and are looking at trials in other towns including Coventry, Hull & Sheffield," said Julia Bradburn, principal licensing manager at South Somerset District Council............. <snip> more at http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/10/20/pub_fingerprints/Will the no-pub list turn ot to be another no-fly list? What other implications would this have? If this were to happen in the US, that info would be used by insurance companies to drop your credit rating, raise your car insurance and all other kind of insurance rates (since they now evaluate more than driving safety and prompt bill paying as criteria for how much they can charge for insurance) Then what else would they use it for? "Sorry, you are on the No-pub list, you can't come into our restaurant/store/church/etc" Also, what chances that people who want to cause you problems can set you up to be seen as a problem user? So many new personal invasions were put in place to 'prevent terrorism', but look at how far they are straying from their initial claim to need all this information. Once this kind of thing gets established someplace, it just propagates. I'm still boggled about Disney requiring people to use fingerprint scanners around the Disneyworld park. http://www.local6.com/news/4724689/detail.html
This has nothing to do with terrorists. Pubs are run by private individuals, and in the UK, have the nature of a social environment. The person running the pub has every right to ban arseholes. If someone has demonstrated his arseholehood in one pub, other publicans have every right to ban that person. Arseholehood is demonstrated by arsehole behaviour. Publicans don't want to ban paying customers and lose revenue, so arseholehood isn't conferred lightly. But when one person's behaviour ruins the evening of a whole bunch of people, the publican faces losing the whole bunch of people if he doesn't do something about the arsehole. _______________________________________________ privacy mailing list privacy () whitestar linuxbox org http://www.whitestar.linuxbox.org/mailman/listinfo/privacy
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- Re: [privacy] Want a beer at the pub? Have your prints taken Brian Loe (Oct 23)
- Re: [privacy] Want a beer at the pub? Have your prints taken Dude VanWinkle (Oct 23)
- Re: [privacy] Want a beer at the pub? Have your prints taken Drsolly (Oct 24)
- Re: [privacy] Want a beer at the pub? Have your prints taken Gadi Evron (Oct 24)
- Re: [privacy] Want a beer at the pub? Have your prints taken Dude VanWinkle (Oct 24)
- Re: [privacy] Want a beer at the pub? Have your prints taken Brian Loe (Oct 24)
- Re: [privacy] Want a beer at the pub? Have your prints taken Drsolly (Oct 24)