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Re: "Perspective: Wresting free from a software straitjacket"
From: Nick FitzGerald <nick () virus-l demon co uk>
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 16:45:23 +1300
Brian Loe to me:
On 12/4/06, Nick FitzGerald <nick () virus-l demon co uk> wrote:It is not just that simple that the evils of capitalism will out whereever its grubby money is cast...As best I can understand that sentence I'm immediately provoked into asking you what you do for a living? Do you work in trade only or rely on donations?
Imagining, for a moment, that you you were to have a functionally useful brain, we can see that I was, for the purposes of argument, further simplifying the statement of _ferg's_ argument for the purposes of disputing it. That need not mean I agree with it -- in fact suggests I probably do not -- so the relevance of your question here would be what? Of course, we're starting from a pretty outlandish presumption, so maybe we should just ignore your irrelevant question...
There were _tons_ of people from the _inside_ of the science project who really should have known better than pushing their 60's liberal hippie quasi-academic crapola that "information wants to be free" and the Internet _as it was then_ was clearly the only/best model of extending the reach of that freedom. Far too many of these jerk-offs complicitly joined the rapid deployment of the Internet as it was then into the commercial space and are at least as directly responsible for the crapola we have now as the capitalists are for layering their existant business models onto TCP/IP.This seems like a dramatically simplified, historical account of how we "got" the Internet. ...
Of course it is -- hell, I compressed ~45 years of complex history into a few hundred words of _analysis_ and added a dash of opinion. To say that I had provided, or even suggest that I had intended to provide, a complete history of the development of the Internet would be even more ludicrous than saying that my long-running assessment of you as a total moron is a complete personal profile of you. Of course, just because one has, in so few words, provided a highly focussed assessment of one aspect of such a period in history does not necessarily make that assessment any less accurate than characterizing you as a total moron need be...
... While the protocol might not be what we want NOW, who knew THEN? It was all new, to everyone. We weren't ever expected to run out of IP addresses either, remember?
If you had read my whole posting for its total focus and meaning, rather than just focussing on the few words or concepts your limited intellect seems capable of grasping, you would have realized that I could have substituted any of several other common lower or higher level real-world protocols into that sentence without changing the meaning of the total post, so again, you are focussing on and questioning irrelevancies. But what else should we expect of a total moron? Regards, Nick FitzGerald _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Current thread:
- Re: "Perspective: Wresting free from a software straitjacket", (continued)
- Re: "Perspective: Wresting free from a software straitjacket" Paul Vixie (Dec 02)
- RE: "Perspective: Wresting free from a software straitjacket" Young, Keith (Dec 01)
- RE: "Perspective: Wresting free from a software straitjacket" Nick FitzGerald (Dec 01)
- RE: "Perspective: Wresting free from a software straitjacket" Drsolly (Dec 02)
- RE: "Perspective: Wresting free from a software straitjacket" Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah (Dec 02)
- RE: "Perspective: Wresting free from a software straitjacket" Nick FitzGerald (Dec 01)
- RE: "Perspective: Wresting free from a software straitjacket" Drsolly (Dec 02)
- RE: "Perspective: Wresting free from a software straitjacket" Fergie (Dec 01)
- RE: "Perspective: Wresting free from a software straitjacket" Nick FitzGerald (Dec 04)
- Re: "Perspective: Wresting free from a software straitjacket" Brian Loe (Dec 04)
- RE: "Perspective: Wresting free from a software straitjacket" David Harley (Dec 05)
- Re: "Perspective: Wresting free from a software straitjacket" Nick FitzGerald (Dec 05)
- Re: "Perspective: Wresting free from a software straitjacket" Brian Loe (Dec 05)
- RE: "Perspective: Wresting free from a software straitjacket" Nick FitzGerald (Dec 04)