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Re: "Perspective: Wresting free from a software straitjacket"


From: Nick FitzGerald <nick () virus-l demon co uk>
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 16:45:23 +1300

Brian Loe to me:

On 12/4/06, Nick FitzGerald <nick () virus-l demon co uk> wrote:

It is not just that simple that the evils of capitalism will out
whereever its grubby money is cast...

As best I can understand that sentence I'm immediately provoked into
asking you what you do for a living? Do you work in trade only or rely
on donations?

Imagining, for a moment, that you you were to have a functionally 
useful brain, we can see that I was, for the purposes of argument, 
further simplifying the statement of _ferg's_ argument for the purposes 
of disputing it.  That need not mean I agree with it -- in fact 
suggests I probably do not -- so the relevance of your question here 
would be what?

Of course, we're starting from a pretty outlandish presumption, so 
maybe we should just ignore your irrelevant question...

There were _tons_ of people from the _inside_ of the science project
who really should have known better than pushing their 60's liberal
hippie quasi-academic crapola that "information wants to be free" and
the Internet _as it was then_ was clearly the only/best model of
extending the reach of that freedom.  Far too many of these jerk-offs
complicitly joined the rapid deployment of the Internet as it was then
into the commercial space and are at least as directly responsible for
the crapola we have now as the capitalists are for layering their
existant business models onto TCP/IP.

This seems like a dramatically simplified, historical account of how
we "got" the Internet.  ...

Of course it is -- hell, I compressed ~45 years of complex history into 
a few hundred words of _analysis_ and added a dash of opinion.  To say 
that I had provided, or even suggest that I had intended to provide, a 
complete history of the development of the Internet would be even more 
ludicrous than saying that my long-running assessment of you as a total 
moron is a complete personal profile of you.

Of course, just because one has, in so few words, provided a highly 
focussed assessment of one aspect of such a period in history does not 
necessarily make that assessment any less accurate than characterizing 
you as a total moron need be...

...  While the protocol might not be what we want
NOW, who knew THEN? It was all new, to everyone. We weren't ever
expected to run out of IP addresses either, remember?

If you had read my whole posting for its total focus and meaning, 
rather than just focussing on the few words or concepts your limited 
intellect seems capable of grasping, you would have realized that I 
could have substituted any of several other common lower or higher 
level real-world protocols into that sentence without changing the 
meaning of the total post, so again, you are focussing on and 
questioning irrelevancies.

But what else should we expect of a total moron?


Regards,

Nick FitzGerald

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