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Re: Using ad serving software for censoring news stories
From: "Brian Loe" <knobdy () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 08:41:59 -0500
On 8/29/06, Drsolly <drsollyp () drsolly com> wrote:
The reason you have a First Amendment, is that you didn't get it right first time around. We've had freedom of speech in the UK since deep in the mists of time.
Didn't get what right the first time around? The First Amendment WAS our first time - after kicking our "lords" (your king) out. The first ten "Amendments" are called the Bill of Rights and were written to guarantee the passage of the Constitution. If you are referring to the Articles of Confederation, I'd like to hear your arguments about our limited free speech under those contracts...
It's the law in the UK, that you mustn't speculate on the facts of a trial, in advance of the trial, because that leads to an unfair trial.
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You can't say "The were plotting to blow up" because that's assuming their guilt, and in the UK, there's a presumption of innocence until proven guilty in a court of law. Newspapers can't assume guilt.
In the US there is a presumption of innocence as well - but that only governs the courts (jururists). See, here in the US our Constitution only governs the government and our papers are free to print whatever they like so long as they don't libel or slander. Our papers are also free to call a spade a spade - terrorists, after all, ARE terrorists. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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