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RE: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month
From: Larry Seltzer <Larry () larryseltzer com>
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 18:23:07 -0400
Yeah, you don't want to start telling revisionist Melissa history on a list that Richard reads. He was there. Larry Seltzer eWEEK.com Security Center Editor http://security.eweek.com/ http://blog.eweek.com/blogs/larry%5Fseltzer/ Contributing Editor, PC Magazine larryseltzer () ziffdavis com -----Original Message----- From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org] On Behalf Of Richard M. Smith Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 6:04 PM To: funsec () linuxbox org Subject: RE: [funsec] write viruses? it's controversy time of the month Huh? Court papers: Smith admits to creating Melissa virus http://news.com.com/Court+papers+Smith+admits+to+creating+Melissa+virus/2100 -1023_3-230256.html Smith admitted to writing the "Melissa" macro virus, illegally accessing America Online for the purpose of posting the virus onto the Internet, and destroying the personal computer he used to post the virus, Bubb stated. The AOL account used to spread VicodinES viruses was skyroket () aol com. Google Groups still finds some of these virus spreading postings that were done about a year before Melissa: http://tinyurl.com/zs3py Richard -----Original Message----- From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org] On Behalf Of Blanchard_Michael () emc com Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 5:53 PM To: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu; ge () linuxbox org Cc: funsec () linuxbox org Subject: RE: [funsec] write viruses? it's controversy time of the month What about writing a virus, but never intending for it to get out, but it gets out? Um, Melissa anyone? I'm not gunna touch it any further though, I have a cell phone to throw! :-) Michael P. Blanchard Antivirus / Security Engineer, CISSP, GCIH, CCSA-NGX, MCSE Office of Information Security & Risk Management EMC ² Corporation 4400 Computer Dr. Westboro, MA 01580 -----Original Message----- From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org] On Behalf Of Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 5:28 PM To: Gadi Evron Cc: funsec () linuxbox org Subject: Re: [funsec] write viruses? it's controversy time of the month On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:13:49 CDT, Gadi Evron said:
http://www.heise-security.co.uk/articles/77440 Okay, so, who wants to shout writing viruses is bad, first?
Releasing viruses is bad. Keeping a stockpile of viruses under conditions that they may escape is bad - and it doesn't matter if you wrote them or collected them. You may have collected a rare virus that hasn't been seen yet by A/V signature writers - or you may write viruses that intentionally are detected by current scanners. So the moral injunction is to not release undetectable viruses, no matter what source. Writing a non-released virus? That's a black box by definition, and morally neutral. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- write viruses? it's controversy time of the month Gadi Evron (Aug 29)
- Re: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month Valdis . Kletnieks (Aug 29)
- RE: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month Blanchard_Michael (Aug 29)
- RE: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month Richard M. Smith (Aug 29)
- RE: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month Larry Seltzer (Aug 29)
- RE: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month Larry Seltzer (Aug 29)
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- Re: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month Brian Loe (Aug 30)
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