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Re: [privacy] US vs EU
From: "Brian Loe" <knobdy () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:28:31 -0500
On 8/28/06, David Harley <david.a.harley () gmail com> wrote:
I wasn't entirely fair, maybe. A lot of MI* activity tends to be ascribed or footnoted to police operations, and maybe I've had a lot of practice at reading between the lines. It's common knowledge (meaning it was in the papers, on TV etc.) that a lot of the intelligence about recent bomb-making activities, threats to air-travel etc. derived from the security services. The really interesting question is not whether MI* is doing anything, but whether they're doing anything apart from run around in panicky circles. But that's not a question you should restrict to UK security services.
I appreciate your level-headedness! At any rate, don't you also wonder what they are doing that is different than what the CIA/NSA are accused of doing? If its all really up to public debate, and MI* groups are having more success than another, seems it would be a worthy discussion to see what rights we're willing to give up for that level of safety - world wide! And I am pretty sure - though I have no proof - that all of these groups are sharing all kinds of information and I highly doubt this is a new thing. And for what its worth, I doubt it started with the Bush/Blair administrations either. It MAY be a new thing that they're sharing it a lot more, and allowing for a lot more spying now than say pre-9/11. In a nutshell I'd just like to see those questions asked - and I don't care if they're asked in the US or the UK or Pakistan. _______________________________________________ privacy mailing list privacy () whitestar linuxbox org http://www.whitestar.linuxbox.org/mailman/listinfo/privacy
Current thread:
- Re: [privacy] US vs EU, (continued)
- Re: [privacy] US vs EU David Harley (Aug 28)
- Re: [privacy] US vs EU Dude VanWinkle (Aug 28)
- Re: [privacy] US vs EU David Harley (Aug 28)
- Re: [privacy] US vs EU Brian Loe (Aug 28)
- Re: [privacy] US vs EU Dude VanWinkle (Aug 28)
- Re: [privacy] US vs EU Brian Loe (Aug 28)
- Re: [privacy] US vs EU Valdis . Kletnieks (Aug 28)
- Re: [privacy] US vs EU Randy Abrams (Aug 28)
- Re: [privacy] US vs EU Drsolly (Aug 28)
- Re: [privacy] US vs EU David Harley (Aug 28)
- Re: [privacy] US vs EU Brian Loe (Aug 28)
- Re: [privacy] US vs EU David Harley (Aug 28)
- Re: [privacy] US vs EU Valdis . Kletnieks (Aug 28)
- Re: [privacy] US vs EU Dude VanWinkle (Aug 28)
- Re: [privacy] US vs EU Brian Loe (Aug 28)
- Re: [privacy] US vs EU Randy Abrams (Aug 28)
- Re: [privacy] US vs EU Brian Loe (Aug 28)
- Re: [privacy] US vs EU Drsolly (Aug 28)