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RE: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses


From: Drsolly <drsollyp () drsolly com>
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 20:26:21 +0100 (BST)

I don't think I made a comment about who was involved in the testing. What 
I did menti0n, was that it would be interesting to see their methodiology. 
In particular, how did the generate these 5,000 viruses, and how did they 
verify that they were, indeed, viruses.

I know one magazine that did an AV test using a large number of files, 
none of which turned out to be viruses. But that's an extreme case, of 
course.

On Mon, 21 Aug 2006, Young, Keith wrote:


Regarding DrSolly's comment about who was involved in the testing.

From: 
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/electronics-computers/protection-soft
ware-9-06/how-we-test-antivirus-software/0609_software_testing.htm
"We tested a comprehensive selection of antivirus software for consumers
in ways that accurately reflect real-world conditions, enlisting the
help of consultants at Independent Security Evaluators (ISE), a
computer-security consulting firm. (The president of ISE, Avi Rubin, is
a former technical advisory board member of a company acquired by
software vendor McAfee before ISE began its work for Consumer Reports.
He continues to act as an advisor to that company and was not involved
in our testing.)"

[The company mentioned above that was acquired by McAfee is SiteAdvisor:
http://www.siteadvisor.com/about/team.html ]

Was that full disclosure statement always there? 

Has anyone tried to contact Avi in order to get more details? Figuring
that he has preached on full disclosure of electronic voting machines
<http://www.avirubin.com/>, as president of ISE he may be swayed to give
full disclosure regarding the methodology of this test...

--Keith

Keith Young, Security Official
Department of Technology Services
Montgomery County, Maryland
phone - (240) 777-2955

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