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Re: "Network Neutrality" or "Open Internet"
From: "Fergie" <fergdawg () netzero net>
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 03:32:13 GMT
Correction: That should read 'loss' not 'error-correction' with regards to TCP. My bad. :-) - ferg -- "Fergie" <fergdawg () netzero net> wrote: Right, exactly. Further: Remember that TCP/UDP (et. al.) is a all about packets, and as such, is designed as a best effort delivery service (retransmission and error-detection built into TCP itself, UDP relying on the various associated applications, etc). Better than best effort? No such thing, not in The Internet. Worse than best effort? Bingo. - ferg -- Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote: On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 00:11:17 MDT, Dude VanWinkle said:
Also, is the degradation of services happening on the Client side, the Provider side, or both?
What QoS *really* means: "If we underengineered our backbone and can't carry everybody's packet, we throw away packets from the people who paid us the least". Alternatively: "Preferential treatment can degrade service, but it cannot improve service." -- <Michael.Dillon () btradianz com> -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawg () netzero net or fergdawg () sbcglobal net ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- "Network Neutrality" or "Open Internet" Dude VanWinkle (Apr 14)
- Re: "Network Neutrality" or "Open Internet" Valdis . Kletnieks (Apr 15)
- Re: "Network Neutrality" or "Open Internet" Sean Donelan (Apr 16)
- Re: "Network Neutrality" or "Open Internet" and why it costs Kevin McAleavey (Apr 16)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: "Network Neutrality" or "Open Internet" Fergie (Apr 15)
- Re: "Network Neutrality" or "Open Internet" Dude VanWinkle (Apr 15)
- Re: "Network Neutrality" or "Open Internet" Valdis . Kletnieks (Apr 16)
- Re: "Network Neutrality" or "Open Internet" Dude VanWinkle (Apr 16)
- RE: "Network Neutrality" or "Open Internet" StyleWar (Apr 16)
- Re: "Network Neutrality" or "Open Internet" Dude VanWinkle (Apr 15)
- Re: "Network Neutrality" or "Open Internet" Fergie (Apr 15)
- Re: "Network Neutrality" or "Open Internet" Fergie (Apr 15)
- Re: "Network Neutrality" or "Open Internet" Fergie (Apr 16)
- Re: "Network Neutrality" or "Open Internet" Fergie (Apr 16)
- Re: "Network Neutrality" or "Open Internet" Dude VanWinkle (Apr 16)