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Re: Re: knife ban going to work?


From: "Dude VanWinkle" <dudevanwinkle () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 15:27:51 -0400

On 5/26/06, Drsolly <drsollyp () drsolly com> wrote:
On Fri, 26 May 2006, Brian Loe wrote:

> On 5/26/06, Drsolly <drsollyp () drsolly com> wrote:
> > > It has nothing to do with what they were murdered with, but that they
> > > were murdered for gang related business. Remove that from the
> > > statistics and our murder rate is probably going to be
> > > normal...regardless of weapon used.
> >
> > The trouble with removing "gang-related" murders from the statistics, is
> > that you've chosen a bunch of murders to disregard, and I don't really see
> > how you can decide to leave them out. Did you think that gangs are a
> > purely US phenomenon?
>
> Technically you CAN'T remove them, the data isn't stored that way.
> However, one can propose that if drugs were legal, and gangs weren't
> fighting over them, the would do less killing. These are business
> killings. Its like including military kills in a murder rate, in my
> book.

You have an odd book. In everyone else's book, business killings are still
murder. If drugs were legal, then it would still be a business, and there
would still be business killings.

Not always, accidental killings are not considered murder to my knowledge.

While I hate to help prove this point, the truth is less guns dont
mean a safer citizen.

Take a place near where I grew up for example: Kennesaw, Georgia. All
housholds are required by law to have at least 1 firearm. Kennesaw
also has one of the lowest murder rates in Ga (all though i dont vouch
for their Drunken-Redneck-Self-Inflicted-Wounds Rate or DRSIWR).

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=kennesaw+georgia+required+to+own+a+gun&spell=1

-JP

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