Re: [privacy] Did USA Today get the story all wrong?

[coderman <coderman () gmail com>]

On 5/17/06, Dude VanWinkle <dudevanwinkle () gmail com> wrote:
> > ...  little has been
> > mentioned about the Senators who have been briefed on ALL of these
> > programs, Democrats included, and had NO problems with it

this needs more explanation.  there are clear indications that not
even republican senators associated with intelligence oversight were
fully informed.  the briefings today behind closed doors with a larger
(but still small subset) of congress is the first time some of these
details have been presented to law makers.

there are also strong indications that some of the most secret / deep
black / highly compartmentalized programs had almost no oversight in
congress; the executive  and a few DoJ individuals were authorizing
some programs while congress was clueless or led to believe they were
canceled / did not exist.  (remember TIA was never killed, just
renamed and classified?)

of course, Russell Tice should have had an audience with congress back
in December.  what the hell are they doing?

(and that said, it is also clear some parts of these programs were
discussed in bi-partisan environments with nary an objection voiced)


> Holy crap, I agree with you on something!
>
> Party peeps are morons. That is still undisputed.

no kidding, there is plenty of disgusting complacency, deception and
ineptitude across all party lines and ideological boundaries.  the
entire lot of these idiots have collectively screwed up in various
ways.

what a shameful mess. it's going to take more to clean this house than
we'll ever see, regardless of who controls congress or the executive
branch.
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