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RE: Vulnerability-based IPS Patent
From: "Richard M. Smith" <rms () bsf-llc com>
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 21:26:20 -0500
So did these TSR scanners look at files after they were stored on disk or while the files were coming through DOS before being stored on disk? The latter approach is required to be prior art for the patent. Richard -----Original Message----- From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org] On Behalf Of Nick FitzGerald Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 8:06 PM To: funsec () linuxbox org Subject: RE: [funsec] Vulnerability-based IPS Patent Richard M. Smith wrote:
Be interested to hear what you can dig up. Virus Guard would have had to ship before Sept. 29, 1991 to be considered prior art. Had it shipped between 9/29/1991 and 9/29/1992 things are more murky. In addition, it's functionality would have to match up with all the patent
claims. Further to Alan's and Roger's recolections that they shipped TSR scanners prior to the prior-art cut-off for this patent, I submit the following text verbatim from the Virus-L (don't ask) archives): ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 90 08:36:04 -0600 From: James Ford <JFORD1@UA1VM.BITNET> Subject: New files to MIBSRV. (PC) These files have been placed on MIBSRV.MIB.ENG.UA.EDU (130.160.20.80) for anonymous FTP. They are: SCANV57.ZIP - ViruScan 2.7V57 (update) SCANRS57.ZIP - TSR version of ViruScan (update) NETSCN57.ZIP - Network Version of ViruScan (update) CLEANP57.ZIP - Clean-Up Virus Remover (update) NETFIX10.ZIP - Equivalent to NETSCAN & CLEAN-UP (*new*) All files were downloaded directly from Homebase BBS on 1/29/90 - ---------- James Ford - JFORD1@UA1VM.BITNET, JFORD () MIBSRV MIB ENG UA EDU ------------------------------ I don't know _when_ McAfee shipped the first TSR version of their scanner (though soemone there should be able to tell you and a "near enough" reference might be found in very old back issues of Virus Bulletin), but by 30 Jan 1990 they were shiopping _updates_ for it, so the first ever version presumably shipped somewhat before that date. You can check the above reference (and search for more, back or forward in the archive) at: http://www.phreak.org/archives/The_Collection/newsletr/virus/virus_l/199 0/vlnl03.026 I'd be surprised if there were not earlier references to TSR scanners, BUT note that a lot of talk about TSR AV at that time was about _behaviour blockers_ (Ross Greenburg's (sp?) FluShot[+], disk boot record integrity checkers, etc) and NOT scanners. Regards, Nick FitzGerald _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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