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Re: Fun with (In)Security


From: Drsolly <drsollyp () drsolly com>
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 15:36:18 +0000 (GMT)

On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:

On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 11:19:28 GMT, Drsolly said:

You get a gun (that's a real gun, not the popguns that it's legal to buy, 
something in 88mm or so) and fire one piece at the other; that's how 
Little Boy worked. I don't think it's rocket science.

Actually, it's trickier than it looks - the "obvious" solution of simply
slamming two sub-critical hemispheres together will almost certainly fizzle.
The problem is that as it gets close, the surfaces start to melt down and
vaporize, and the resulting high-pressure vapor tends to push the pieces apart
before you get a really good chain reaction going.

And if you want to get good efficiency, the projectile part is riding the
pressure wave of some really high energy explosives to compress the fissionable
material. Yes, it's metal, but a really good shaped charge can compress metal
by a factor of 3 to 5 or more, which makes the reaction go *lots* faster by
reducing the average neutron travel distance (and hey, that explosive only has
to keep it compressed for a few ten-thousandths of a second).  Oh, and you want
to try really hard to make the compression symmetric, as otherwise the more
dense side will start to fission first, and blow itself apart before the other
side gets going, resulting in a fizzle or a low yield....

Of course, there's not much real difference between a dirty bomb and a fizzle,
so if you're a terrorist you can just bang two hemispheres together... :)
 
It's like programming. Version 1 tells you what you need to do to make a 
good version 2.

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