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Re: Red Herring Profile: Blue Security Spams Spammers
From: Dude VanWinkle <dudevanwinkle () gmail com>
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 04:43:14 +0200
On 10/30/05, Nick FitzGerald <nick () virus-l demon co uk> wrote:
Fergie wrote:For what its worth: Interesting profile on Blue Security over on Red Herring:If I understand them right, these guys think that a few hundred thousand users, sending one request, once to a spammed address will somehow grossly inconvenience spamemrs to the point where the spammers will either give up or have to spend huge ammounts of money buying really chunky servers and network connectivity to be able to witstand the onslaught? They clearly have no clue about botnets... _ANY_ "anti-spam" method that depends on scale (be strike-back like this, or Billy's (once) favourite "Penny Black", etc, etc) defeating spammers is broken by botnets, as they already afford the spammers the supposedly prohibitive scale. So, aside from the valid concerns raised by other commentators in the article, we can add "utter cluelessness as to the actual nature of the problem" to the reasons Blue Frog is a worthless PoS "technology". Regards, Nick FitzGerald
Hrmm, I thought they were trying to punish those who hire spammers by DoS'ing www.nakedteenviagraloans.com after ad's had been sent promoting those sites. I dont like the idea of adding additional load to the interweb. Blue should have a Clue, or at least think it through. Maybe they are just trying to speed up the inevitable government regulation that will come when spamers take _all_ bandwidth Still, no technology is completely bad. Maybe someday, someone will use their code for good. -JP "10mb per attachment limit on free email accounts, hmm... I'll send pr0n mpegs from my wireless distriubuted starbucks cluster to all hotmail, yahoo and gmail addy's. Bwah ha ha ha" - _not_ JP _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Current thread:
- Red Herring Profile: Blue Security Spams Spammers Fergie (Oct 29)
- Re: Red Herring Profile: Blue Security Spams Spammers Nick FitzGerald (Oct 29)
- Re: Red Herring Profile: Blue Security Spams Spammers Dude VanWinkle (Oct 29)
- Re: Red Herring Profile: Blue Security Spams Spammers Florian Weimer (Oct 30)
- RE: Red Herring Profile: Blue Security Spams Spammers Aditya Deshmukh (Oct 30)
- RE: Red Herring Profile: Blue Security Spams Spammers Dave Dittrich (Nov 01)
- RE: Red Herring Profile: Blue Security Spams Spammers Nick FitzGerald (Nov 01)
- RE: Red Herring Profile: Blue Security Spams Spammers Dave Dittrich (Nov 01)
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- RE: Red Herring Profile: Blue Security Spams Spammers Fergie (Oct 30)
- RE: Red Herring Profile: Blue Security Spams Spammers Hank Nussbacher (Oct 30)
- Re: Red Herring Profile: Blue Security Spams Spammers Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 30)
- RE: Red Herring Profile: Blue Security Spams Spammers Hank Nussbacher (Oct 30)
- Re: Red Herring Profile: Blue Security Spams Spammers Nick FitzGerald (Oct 29)