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Re: Red Herring Profile: Blue Security Spams Spammers


From: Dude VanWinkle <dudevanwinkle () gmail com>
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 04:43:14 +0200

On 10/30/05, Nick FitzGerald <nick () virus-l demon co uk> wrote:
Fergie wrote:

For what its worth:

Interesting profile on Blue Security over on Red Herring:

If I understand them right, these guys think that a few hundred
thousand users, sending one request, once to a spammed address will
somehow grossly inconvenience spamemrs to the point where the spammers
will either give up or have to spend huge ammounts of money buying
really chunky servers and network connectivity to be able to witstand
the onslaught?

They clearly have no clue about botnets...

_ANY_ "anti-spam" method that depends on scale (be strike-back like
this, or Billy's (once) favourite "Penny Black", etc, etc) defeating
spammers is broken by botnets, as they already afford the spammers the
supposedly prohibitive scale.

So, aside from the valid concerns raised by other commentators in the
article, we can add "utter cluelessness as to the actual nature of the
problem" to the reasons Blue Frog is a worthless PoS "technology".


Regards,

Nick FitzGerald


Hrmm, I thought they were trying to punish those who hire spammers by
DoS'ing www.nakedteenviagraloans.com after ad's had been sent
promoting those sites.

I dont like the idea of adding additional load to the interweb. Blue
should have a Clue, or at least think it through.

Maybe they are just trying to speed up the inevitable government
regulation that will come when spamers take _all_ bandwidth

Still, no technology is completely bad. Maybe someday, someone will
use their code for good.

-JP
"10mb per attachment limit on free email accounts, hmm... I'll send
pr0n mpegs from my wireless distriubuted starbucks cluster to all
hotmail, yahoo and gmail addy's. Bwah ha ha ha"
- _not_ JP

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