RE: Hey old people

["Todd Towles" <toddtowles () brookshires com>]

> Subject: RE: [funsec] Hey old people

But I had DOS 6 on my 8086...ok that was in 1994, so what? lol

> Meet me at the local bar tonight and I'll buy you all a beer.

Sounds good, how much is a Guinness? Wait, how much is several
Guin-eyes?

-Todd

> Larry Seltzer
> eWEEK.com Security Center Editor
> http://security.eweek.com/
> http://blog.ziffdavis.com/seltzer
> Contributing Editor, PC Magazine
> larryseltzer () ziffdavis com 
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Drsolly [mailto:drsollyp () drsolly com]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 7:13 PM
> To: Larry Seltzer
> Cc: 'Nick FitzGerald'; funsec () linuxbox org
> Subject: RE: [funsec] Hey old people
>
> Given the evidence I've found, I think you should check your 
> thinking that the EXE format was new in Dos 2.0
>
> By the way, I just did an Ebay check - you can buy 5150s 
> fairly easily, and quite cheaply (under $50). I think I'll 
> treat myself to one, the one I have was very heavily used, 
> doesn't have the original floppy drives, power supply or 8088 
> and is a bit moth-eaten.
>
> On Wed, 21 Dec 2005, Larry Seltzer wrote:
>
> > OK, obviously I was wrong about something here, although 
> I'm positive 
> > that the EXE format in DOS 2.x was new. Perhaps they are different 
> > format versions and I jumped to a conclusion
> >
> > Larry Seltzer
> > eWEEK.com Security Center Editor
> > http://security.eweek.com/
> > http://blog.ziffdavis.com/seltzer
> > Contributing Editor, PC Magazine
> > larryseltzer () ziffdavis com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org 
> [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org]
> > On Behalf Of Drsolly
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 6:28 PM
> > To: Nick FitzGerald
> > Cc: funsec () linuxbox org
> > Subject: RE: [funsec] Hey old people
> >
> > On Wed, 21 Dec 2005, Drsolly wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 21 Dec 2005, Drsolly wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Thu, 22 Dec 2005, Nick FitzGerald wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Larry Seltzer wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Yeah, that's right, and it was one of the reasons 
> DOS 2.0 was
> > important.
> > > > > > You might have noticed that EXE files begin with 
> 'MZ' (and the 
> > > > > > DOS 2+ MCB chain uses M and Z as identifiers). These are 
> > > > > > vanity marks for Mark Zbikowski, lead programmer on 
> DOS 2.0, 
> > > > > > but he wasn't even a Microsoft employee when DOS 1 
> was written.
> > > > > So presumably LINK.EXE also first appeared in DOS 2.0 (or a 
> > > > > later version)?
> > > >  
> > > > Unfortunately, I no longer have my PC Dos 1.1 diskette.
> > >  
> > > And with PC Dos 1.1, you also got exe2bin.exe
> > >
> > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~rvtol/pcdos110.html
> >  
> > And edlin. Ah, edlin. I actually used edlin. When I first got a PC, 
> > 1983, I was used to using mainframes and minis like the PDP and Vax.
> > So I said, OK, where's the editor, where's the compiler, 
> because with 
> > mainframes and minis, you use what's there, no choice. So I 
> used Edlin 
> > and Basica for programming, and I used it for a full six 
> weeks before 
> > I realised that I could buy the IBM Professional Editor and the 
> > Microsoft
> Fortran Compiiler.
> > And let me tell you, you don't want to use edlin as an editor, and 
> > Basic programs (in that old version of Basic) set like 
> concrete within 
> > a few weeks of writing them.
> >
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