funsec mailing list archives
ClamAV and open anti viruses [was: samples sharing blah]
From: Gadi Evron <ge () linuxbox org>
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 17:03:59 -0600 (CST)
If the "good" people at CLAMAV hadn't started out by stealing other peoples work they may have gotten more help initially. You chose a really bad example there...one where thieves were complaining about not getting help. They seem to have cleaned up their act, but they were blatantly stealing. It is no wonder they didn't get help.
I believe there are seceral versions to this story. Some didn't see running AV's to se how thy detect samples as stealing. I wouldn't have done it, but as uneducated people in the AV world and not a lot to learn from, they did well enough and learned from their mistakes. Was that what you were referring to? BTW, that method was in a document they got from a sister/older project, was not their own, I believe. There are many reasons against open anti viruses. MANY. Still, ClamAV has proven itself and found it's audience of users. I believe that if the AV industry (people in it, not companies) cares enough to look outside the box and their own ego's, they may have decided to try and help that project. Than again, why should they? :) If Costin is listening, he can give a link to his articles on this subject... although I am not sure they are up-to-date or covering everything such as engine tradeofs being public, etc. Nick, remember that conversation? Gadi. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Current thread:
- Re: Re: Malware sharing? People are full of shit [was: Getyour computer viruses here!], (continued)
- Re: Re: Malware sharing? People are full of shit [was: Getyour computer viruses here!] Drsolly (Dec 29)
- Re: Re: Malware sharing? People are full of shit [was: Getyour computer viruses here!] Gadi Evron (Dec 30)
- Re: Re: Malware sharing? People are full of shit [was: Getyour computer viruses here!] James Kehl (Dec 30)
- Re: Re: Malware sharing? People are full of shit [was: Getyour computer viruses here!] Drsolly (Dec 30)
- Re: Re: Malware sharing? People are full of shit [was: Getyour computer viruses here!] Nick FitzGerald (Dec 30)
- Re: Re: Malware sharing? People are full of shit [was: Getyour computer viruses here!] Drsolly (Dec 30)
- Re: Re: Malware sharing? People are full of shit [was: Getyour computer viruses here!] Gadi Evron (Dec 30)
- Re: Re: Malware sharing? People are full of shit [was: Getyour computer viruses here!] Drsolly (Dec 29)
- RE: Re: Malware sharing? People are full of shit [was: Getyour computer viruses here!] Gadi Evron (Dec 28)
- RE: Re: Malware sharing? People are full of shit [was: Getyour computer viruses here!] Randy Abrams (Dec 28)
- ClamAV and open anti viruses [was: samples sharing blah] Gadi Evron (Dec 28)
- Re: ClamAV and open anti viruses [was: samples sharing blah] Drsolly (Dec 28)
- Re: ClamAV and open anti viruses [was: samples sharing blah] Gadi Evron (Dec 28)
- Re: ClamAV and open anti viruses [was: samples sharing blah] Drsolly (Dec 28)
- RE: Re: Malware sharing? People are full of shit [was: Getyour computer viruses here!] Drsolly (Dec 28)
- RE: Re: Malware sharing? People are full of shit [was: Getyour computer viruses here!] Gadi Evron (Dec 28)
- RE: Re: Malware sharing? People are full of shit [was: Getyour computer viruses here!] Drsolly (Dec 28)
- RE: Re: Malware sharing? People are full of shit [was: Getyour computer viruses here!] Gadi Evron (Dec 28)
- RE: Re: Malware sharing? People are full of shit [was: Getyour computer viruses here!] Drsolly (Dec 28)
- RE: Re: Malware sharing? People are full of shit [was: Getyour computer viruses here!] Gadi Evron (Dec 28)
- RE: Re: Malware sharing? People are full of shit [was: Getyour computer viruses here!] Drsolly (Dec 28)