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Re: Hey old people
From: Roland Dobbins <rdobbins () cisco com>
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 13:12:40 -0800
Along those lines, wouldn't the Enigma-machine bugs which allowed decryption of German communications during WWII be considered germmane (pardon the pun)? There was even a hardware-swapout involved, of new rotors.
Same for the Japanese machines which were used to encipher their diplomatic traffic using the 'Purple' code.
The mistake of re-using the same one-time pads by the NKVD (later KGB) during WWII and afterwards, which led to the successful decryption of what came to be called the Venona transcripts.
It's also arguable that the use of clear-text messaging by the Confederacy during the American Civil War led directly to the South losing the war. In 1862, the interception of Special Orders 191 by the 27th Indiana Infantry (the orders were accidentally dropped by a courier, who had used them to wrap some cigars) gave away Lee's plan for the invasion of Maryland, which was intended to shock the North into asking for terms. Due to the intelligence gleaned from the intercept, the Union army halted Lee's advance at Sharpsburg, and forced the Confederate army back across the Potomac, thus ending Lee's hope to knock the Union out of the war early on via 'shock and awe'.
On Dec 21, 2005, at 12:45 PM, Brown, James wrote:
Along about 1975 I remember hearing about an issue with IBM punch cards. Phone bills in those days arrived with a punch card in the envelope. You wrote your check, and put it in the return envelope along with the punch card thathad your account number and bill amount.Seems some enterprising soul took his card to the puch card terminal and put in the IBM EOJ (end of job) character before sending it in, stopping the entire billing run. I don't know if this is true, but seems plausible given thestate of 'data validation' back then. Can anyone verify this?I remember this whenever I hear about 'smart cards' and stuff like that.Best Regards, Jim B. From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org on behalf of Blue Boar Sent: Wed 12/21/2005 1:44 AM To: funsec () linuxbox org Subject: [funsec] Hey old people http://www.osvdb.org/blog/?p=77 Any of you guys remember any really old vulnerabilities? BB _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. ThruPoint, Inc._______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Re: Hey old people Drsolly (Dec 21)
- Re: Hey old people Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 21)
- Re: Hey old people Tom Van Vleck (Dec 22)
- Re: Hey old people dudevanwinkle () gmail com (Dec 22)
- Re: Hey old people Blue Boar (Dec 22)
- Re: Hey old people Drsolly (Dec 22)
- Re: Hey old people Roland Dobbins (Dec 22)
- Re: Hey old people Tom Van Vleck (Dec 22)
- Re: Hey old people Roland Dobbins (Dec 21)
- Re: Hey old people Blue Boar (Dec 21)
- Re: Hey old people Jeff Kell (Dec 21)
- RE: Hey old people Larry Seltzer (Dec 22)
- Re: Hey old people Drsolly (Dec 23)
- Re: Hey old people Aviram Jenik (Dec 25)
- Re: Hey old people Roland Dobbins (Dec 25)
- Re: Hey old people Drsolly (Dec 25)
- Re: Hey old people Aviram Jenik (Dec 27)