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Re: U.S. Senate Blocks Patriot Act Renewal
From: "Fergie" <fergdawg () netzero net>
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 23:52:29 GMT
Well, that's rather insulting to assume that I would mean that you _believe_ anything on CNN, but it's a least reference. I'll let one go. Actually, I believe that ECHELON and the intelligence community's ongoing efforts to collect information will not be affected in the slightest. I'm not kidding myself on this one -- having once worked in the military for authorities at Ft. George G. Meade, MD., I'm quite aware of their mission, intent, and capabilities. I've also worked on the other side of the aisle, so-to-speak, for an ISP (Sprint) and a hardware vendor (Cisco). The point I'm trying to make here is that while the Patriot Act made it convenient for LEA's to use 'National Security Letters' _do_ give authorities the avenue to forego judicial scrutiny: http://reclaimdemocracy.org/articles_2004/national_security_letters.html It's not like I'm making this stuff up... - ferg -- Paul Schmehl <pauls () utdallas edu> wrote: --On Friday, December 16, 2005 23:04:27 +0000 Fergie <fergdawg () netzero net> wrote: So you would prefer I take the word of CNN over actually reading the law myself? That seems a rather odd approach to me. Perhaps you wouldn't mind explaining which of the 16 sections that are expiring contradicts what I said, namely that none of those can be done without judicial oversight or review except for section 501. [snip] -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawg () netzero net or fergdawg () sbcglobal net ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Re[2]: U.S. Senate Blocks Patriot Act Renewal, (continued)
- Re[2]: U.S. Senate Blocks Patriot Act Renewal Pierre Vandevenne (Dec 16)
- Re: U.S. Senate Blocks Patriot Act Renewal Fergie (Dec 16)
- Re: U.S. Senate Blocks Patriot Act Renewal Paul Schmehl (Dec 16)
- Re: U.S. Senate Blocks Patriot Act Renewal Nick FitzGerald (Dec 16)
- Re: U.S. Senate Blocks Patriot Act Renewal Dude VanWinkle (Dec 16)
- Re: U.S. Senate Blocks Patriot Act Renewal Dude VanWinkle (Dec 16)
- Re: U.S. Senate Blocks Patriot Act Renewal Paul Schmehl (Dec 16)
- RE: U.S. Senate Blocks Patriot Act Renewal Hubbard, Dan (Dec 16)
- Re: U.S. Senate Blocks Patriot Act Renewal Dude VanWinkle (Dec 16)
- Re: U.S. Senate Blocks Patriot Act Renewal Paul Schmehl (Dec 16)
- RE: U.S. Senate Blocks Patriot Act Renewal Hubbard, Dan (Dec 17)