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Re: Obama Order Sped Up Wave of Cyberattacks Against Iran
From: Laurelai <laurelai () oneechan org>
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 15:38:22 -0400
On 6/8/12 3:33 PM, James Condron wrote:
Aaaaaand now we degenerate into a political argument nobody but the poster gives a fuck about. Ta for that, maybe take it elsewhere. Let's keep on topic (though we may be several posts behind) Sent using BlackBerry® from Orange -----Original Message----- From: Bzzz <lazyvirus () gmx com> Sender: full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 20:03:51 To: <full-disclosure () lists grok org uk> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Obama Order Sped Up Wave of Cyberattacks Against Iran On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 13:36:07 -0400 Laurelai <laurelai () oneechan org> wrote:Excuse me but im a veteran who served 10 years in the Army and I damn well earned my right to complain about how broken the system is, myself and the soldiers around me sacrificed so that we could all have a free country and that yes I could "whine" about it. Its called the US Constitution, we took an oath to uphold and defend it and everything it stands for.And in 10 years you didn't understood how the system is working, that you were following orders from people that won't ever take any risk (nor their family & friends), that are themselves receiving their orders from big money/business/poliotics you'll never see on tv nor in any newspaper.So while I'm saying here that the civil liberties I swore to uphold and defend are eroding away and that evil is triumphing over the US, you are telling me this is business as usual.You are not lucid, your country has _always_ been a rat lab where masters tell you that you're free, but dig a (tiny) bit and you'll see that's always been a big fat lie (ie: you pay income taxes? but the 19th amendment has never been ratified - and your own justice is enforcing sanctions if you don't pay, knowing what they do is totally illegal...)Just because something evil is the established way of things or is becoming the established way of things doesn't mean we have to or should accept it. Perhaps *you* should stop being so cold and jaded about the evils of the world and put some you know *effort* into fixing them instead of trying to shout down anyone who tries or talks about trying to make the world better.I think he's living in a real world and look at it coldly & without any indulgence.You are honestly implying that there is absolutely nothing that can ever be done ever and we should all just lie down and take it, can you understand why I might take issue with that perspective? You are saying in essence "There is no more room to improve so we should never again try."Thor missed one thing though: he said "people are doing things for 2 reasons; get laid or get paid", there are 2 more reasons: for fun and for ideals; the latest being the most dangerous thing in the whole world. Jean-Yves
Thank you, lets now discuss how infosec experts are going to deal with the threat of state sponsored cyberwarfare, and "bend over and take it" is not really a good answer. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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- Re: Obama Order Sped Up Wave of Cyberattacks Against Iran Ian Hayes (Jun 10)
- Re: Obama Order Sped Up Wave of Cyberattacks Against Iran Laurelai (Jun 10)
- Re: Obama Order Sped Up Wave of Cyberattacks Against Iran Ian Hayes (Jun 08)
- Re: Obama Order Sped Up Wave of Cyberattacks Against Iran Ian Hayes (Jun 08)
- Re: Obama Order Sped Up Wave of Cyberattacks Against Iran Laurelai (Jun 08)
- Re: Obama Order Sped Up Wave of Cyberattacks Against Iran Григорий Братислава (Jun 08)
- Re: Obama Order Sped Up Wave of Cyberattacks Against Iran Laurelai (Jun 08)
- Re: Obama Order Sped Up Wave of Cyberattacks Against Iran Memory Vandal (Jun 08)
- Re: Obama Order Sped Up Wave of Cyberattacks Against Iran Bzzz (Jun 08)
- Re: Obama Order Sped Up Wave of Cyberattacks Against Iran James Condron (Jun 08)
- Re: Obama Order Sped Up Wave of Cyberattacks Against Iran Laurelai (Jun 08)
- Re: Obama Order Sped Up Wave of Cyberattacks Against Iran Ian Hayes (Jun 08)
- Re: Obama Order Sped Up Wave of Cyberattacks Against Iran Laurelai (Jun 08)
- Re: Obama Order Sped Up Wave of Cyberattacks Against Iran Ian Hayes (Jun 08)
- Re: Obama Order Sped Up Wave of Cyberattacks Against Iran Laurelai (Jun 08)
- Re: Obama Order Sped Up Wave of Cyberattacks Against Iran Григорий Братислава (Jun 08)
- Re: Obama Order Sped Up Wave of Cyberattacks Against Iran doc mombasa (Jun 10)
- Re: Obama Order Sped Up Wave of Cyberattacks Against Iran Georgi Guninski (Jun 09)
- Re: Obama Order Sped Up Wave of Cyberattacks Against Iran Thor (Hammer of God) (Jun 09)
- Re: Obama Order Sped Up Wave of Cyberattacks Against Iran coderman (Jun 09)
- Re: Obama Order Sped Up Wave of Cyberattacks Against Iran valdis . kletnieks (Jun 08)