Re: VPN providers and any providers in general...

[Darren Martyn <d.martyn.fulldisclosure () gmail com>]

Going back to my own example, say all three are first world countries, and A
and C are in the EU whilst B is the US. All nations involved have good
diplomatic relations and preexisting extradition treaties, and to add
interest to it, lets say the LEO in B and C helped the investigation. The
criomes would be non-financial, but say, large scale hacks and such. I will
use Jake Davis's case as a "canary case" for this though...

On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 12:31 AM, xD 0x41 <secn3t () gmail com> wrote:

> Ah, the legend of the mailing-list himself, has spoken.
> not knowing you, for all i have seen, your a pathetic sack of rubbish, and
> really, what we are discussing, if you had ANY clue, wich obv dont, is
> simply how far our own freedom is going.
> You are an idiot.
> Have a nice day.
> xd
>
>
>
> On 2 October 2011 08:45, andrew.wallace <andrew.wallace () rocketmail com>wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 5:50 AM,  <Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu> wrote:
> > > On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 09:16:11 +1000, xD 0x41 said:
> > >
> > > > As you also said, murder is a no brainer in any place...well, maybe not
> > iraq
> > > > or afghanistan just yet :P lol..
> > >
> > > Iraq, for all its problems, is still a place with a somewhat functional
> > > judicial system. The court system may be broken, but you in general
> > *will* at
> > > least appear in a courtroom with a judge and be pronounced guilty before
> > you're
> > > punished.
> > >
> > > I was actually thinking more along the lines of  totally failed states
> > such as
> > > Somalia, Sudan, or the contested parts of Afghanistan, where you can't
> > be tried
> > > for murder because there isn't a court to try you *in*.
> >
> > Have you not grown old of talking to children on mailing lists?
> >
> > ---
> >
> > Andrew Wallace
> >
> > Independent consultant
> >
> > www.n3td3v.org.uk
>
>
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