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Re: Ubuntu 11.10 now unsecure by default
From: Darren Martyn <d.martyn.fulldisclosure () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 14:01:45 +0000
To be honest, while Ubuntu is hardly secure, it is not DESIGNED to be secure per se. It is designed to wean Windows users away from M$ and toward GNU/Linux OS types. Kind of a "Linux for newbs". My family went from Win XP to Ubuntu years ago and stuck with it. I moved on to Debian, they stuck to Ubuntu and Win7 (eventually) as they are not computer enthusiasts - mere users. Hell, a friend of mine, she was a self confessed "computer illiterate" and when I moved her to Ubuntu a month later she was learning how to write simple shell scripts to automate tasks - not bad for someone who couldn't work XP's Control Panel for ages... If you want secure as in, OUR version of secure, look elsewhere. One thing I do like about Ubuntu though is it looks pretty :) On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 1:04 PM, <Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu> wrote:
On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 12:24:36 +0100, Mario Vilas said:Let's not overreact. We're talking about a guest account only on dekstop systems, for local login only, and perfectly visible to the user. Theonlyproblem I see here is not having a simple GUI way to disable the guest login for a non tech-savvy user, but no more. (Or am I missing something here?)Given that Ubuntu is an African word for "Can't configure Debian", and the target audience of Ubuntu, the lack of the simple GUI is surprising... (Yes, there's still one config setting saving your butt in sshd_config - but for a distro that wraps a Teletubby interface around freaking /bin/su so you don't accidentally hurt yourself, the fact that there's exactly one config file setting saving your butt if you manage to enable inbound ssh seems a bit of an oversight). _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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- Re: Ubuntu 11.10 now unsecure by default, (continued)
- Re: Ubuntu 11.10 now unsecure by default Valdis . Kletnieks (Nov 17)
- Re: Ubuntu 11.10 now unsecure by default Larry W. Cashdollar (Nov 17)
- Re: Ubuntu 11.10 now unsecure by default Valdis . Kletnieks (Nov 17)
- Re: Ubuntu 11.10 now unsecure by default Andrew N Dowden (Nov 17)
- Re: Ubuntu 11.10 now unsecure by default Ryan Dewhurst (Nov 17)
- Re: Ubuntu 11.10 now unsecure by default Larry W. Cashdollar (Nov 17)
- Re: Ubuntu 11.10 now unsecure by default xD 0x41 (Nov 19)
- Re: Ubuntu 11.10 now unsecure by default Olivier (Nov 18)
- Re: Ubuntu 11.10 now unsecure by default Mario Vilas (Nov 18)
- Re: Ubuntu 11.10 now unsecure by default Valdis . Kletnieks (Nov 18)
- Re: Ubuntu 11.10 now unsecure by default Darren Martyn (Nov 18)
- Re: Ubuntu 11.10 now unsecure by default root (Nov 18)
- Re: Ubuntu 11.10 now unsecure by default GloW - XD (Nov 19)
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- Re: Ubuntu 11.10 now unsecure by default charlie (Nov 23)
- Re: Ubuntu 11.10 now unsecure by default dave bl (Nov 23)
- Re: Ubuntu 11.10 now unsecure by default charlie (Nov 23)
- Re: Ubuntu 11.10 now unsecure by default adam (Nov 23)
- Re: Ubuntu 11.10 now unsecure by default deepquest (Nov 23)
- Re: Ubuntu 11.10 now unsecure by default GloW - XD (Nov 19)
- Re: Ubuntu 11.10 now unsecure by default root (Nov 19)