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Re: [funsec] The Economist, cyber war issue
From: "Tomas L. Byrnes" <tomb () byrneit net>
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 19:36:07 -0700
Wow, such grandiloquism!
-----Original Message----- From: coderman [mailto:coderman () gmail com] Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 7:04 PM To: Tomas L. Byrnes Cc: Joel Esler; Gadi Evron; funsec () linuxbox org; full- disclosure () lists grok org uk Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] [funsec] The Economist, cyber war issue On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Tomas L. Byrnes <tomb () byrneit net> wrote:... So the solution is to take what is currently an NP-complete problemforindividual nodes: string matching and behavioral analysis; and turnitinto a bounded problem across all participating nodesthat method is only applicable to a small and less useful set of measurements / modeling of critical infrastructure.
[Tomas L. Byrnes] I strongly disagree. Since the vector of source attack against most CI is from the "great unwashed" protecting the "great unwashed" from being turned into zombies, or at least, if they are zombies, from being controlled, is a major public benefit. there is rarely
need to consider the minutiae of so many small details. (though NSA/DIA would argue otherwise ;)
[Tomas L. Byrnes] You assume that they are concerned, as opposed to merely grab everything, and apply signal processing to find the signal in the noise.
for the majority of targeting you need only concern yourself with the larger path / node aggregation points to discern the few points / paths of interest. the few points referring to power and other law distributions applicable to critical infrastructure network topology across every industry.
[Tomas L. Byrnes] There's even a patent app on it, owned by AT&T: USPTO app 20060031575 _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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- Re: [funsec] The Economist, cyber war issue, (continued)
- Re: [funsec] The Economist, cyber war issue rick wesson (Jul 01)
- Re: [funsec] The Economist, cyber war issue Christian Sciberras (Jul 01)
- Re: [funsec] The Economist, cyber war issue Tomas L. Byrnes (Jul 02)
- Re: [funsec] The Economist, cyber war issue Christian Sciberras (Jul 01)
- Re: [funsec] The Economist, cyber war issue Joel Esler (Jul 01)
- Re: [funsec] The Economist, cyber war issue Benji (Jul 01)
- Re: [funsec] The Economist, cyber war issue Tomas L. Byrnes (Jul 02)
- Re: [funsec] The Economist, cyber war issue coderman (Jul 04)
- Re: [funsec] The Economist, cyber war issue Tomas L. Byrnes (Jul 06)
- Re: [funsec] The Economist, cyber war issue coderman (Jul 06)
- Re: [funsec] The Economist, cyber war issue coderman (Jul 06)
- Re: [funsec] The Economist, cyber war issue Tomas L. Byrnes (Jul 06)
- Re: [funsec] The Economist, cyber war issue coderman (Jul 07)
- Re: [funsec] The Economist, cyber war issue coderman (Jul 07)
- Re: [funsec] The Economist, cyber war issue rick wesson (Jul 01)
- Re: [funsec] The Economist, cyber war issue Tomas L. Byrnes (Jul 02)