Re: All China, All The Time

[Dan Kaminsky <dan () doxpara com>]

If it's stupid and it works, it isn't stupid.



On Jan 15, 2010, at 11:07 PM, Marc Maiffret <marc () marcmaiffret com>  
wrote:

> Todd, have you verified this "encryption" specifically the statement  
> by McAfee:
> "One of the malicious programs opened a remote backdoor to the
> computer, establishing an encrypted covert channel that masqueraded as
> an SSL connection to avoid detection."
>
> I assume by masquerade they mean the fact it is communicating over
> port 443 with some simple XOR'd bytes to form commands for performing
> various actions ranging from process to file manipulation and updating
> etc...
>
> There are by far better exploits and malware in the world and used
> even by joe botnet operators than this IE0day and malware.
>
> -Marc
>
> On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 2:57 PM, r00t <r00t () ellicit org> wrote:
> > Can you explain how this is sophisticated.  It looks to me like most
> > decent malware samples I've RE'd:
> >
> > The result: triple encrypted shell code which downloads multiple
> > encrypted binaries used to drop an encrypted payload on a target  
> > machine
> > which then establishes an encrypted SSL channel to connect to a  
> > command
> > and control network.
> >
> > If they are so sophisticated and organized, then why do they  
> > continually
> > get noticed shortly after the attack.  A major element that you  
> > fail to
> > realize about these so called sophisticated attacks is stealth and
> > persistence, which this attack lacks.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 1/15/10 12:33 PM, Densmore, Todd wrote:
> > > Here is my 2 cents on both Google and iiScan
> > >
> > > http://www.communities.hp.com/securitysoftware/blogs/spilabs/archive/2010/01/15/china-google-and-web-security.aspx
> > >
> > > ~todd
> > >
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