Re: Apple Safari ... DoS Vulnerability

[bobby.mugabe () hushmail com]

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Huh?

- -bm

On Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:01:05 -0500 Jason Starks
<jstarks440 () gmail com> wrote:
> Right..
>
> > On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 5:45 PM, <bobby.mugabe () hushmail com>
> wrote:
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> > > Mr. Stark,
>
> There.
>
> On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 5:56 PM, <bobby.mugabe () hushmail com> wrote:
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> > Where?
> >
> > - -bm
> >
> > On Tue, 03 Mar 2009 17:54:51 -0500 Jason Starks
> > <jstarks440 () gmail com> wrote:
> > > Mr. Mustache,
> > >
> > > There is a missing "s" on the end of my last name.
> > >
> > > Yours truly,
> > >
> > > Jason "Bench Press" Starks
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 5:45 PM, <bobby.mugabe () hushmail com>
> wrote:
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> > > > Mr. Stark,
> > > >
> > > > Adhering to the tradition of my fathers, I do not sport any
> > > facial
> > > > hair and take offense to your comment, and since you're
> > > obviously
> > > > lacking basic observational skills I highly doubt you're even
> as
> > > > talented as my Cadburys, at anything.
> > > >
> > > > - -bm
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:11:35 -0500 Jason Starks
> > > > <jstarks440 () gmail com> wrote:
> > > > > Mr. Mustache, it is obvious that I have more talent than a
> box
> > > of
> > > > > chocolates, and that you envy the sadistic nature of your
> > > fellow
> > > > > trolls on
> > > > > this list. Point blank.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 6:18 AM, <bobby.mugabe () hushmail com>
> > > wrote:
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> > > > > > Dear Valdis,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have been able to reproduce a similar situation using
> > > Firefox
> > > > > > under MacOSX, using different websites and a significantly
> > > > > larger
> > > > > > number of tabs.  Do you think these issues might be
> related
> > > or
> > > > > are
> > > > > > they operating system specific?  What model of CPU were
> you
> > > > > testing
> > > > > > this issue under?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > - -bm
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:41:53 -0500 Valdis' Mustache
> > > > > > <security.mustache () gmail com> wrote:
> > > > > > > I would like to point out that I have been able to create
> a
> > > > > "hung"
> > > > > > > state in the Firefox browser by opening 30 simultaneous
> tabs
> > > > > > > pointed
> > > > > > > at http://www.welcometointernet.org/lawnmower/ and adding
> a
> > > > > 31st
> > > > > > > tab
> > > > > > > viewing http://www.hotrussianbrides.com.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Also, I am not amused.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Your humble servant,
> > > > > > > Ze Mustache von Kletnieks
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:29 PM,
> > > <bobby.mugabe () hushmail com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
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> > > > > > > > Dear Nick,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You and Thierry Loller are wrong.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > - -bm
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 21:28:17 -0500 Nick FitzGerald
> > > > > <nick@virus-
> > > > > > > > l.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Chris Evans to Thierry Zoller:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Example
> > > > > > > > > > > If a chrome tab can be crashed arbritarely
> (remotely)
> > > it
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > DoS attack
> > > > > > > > > > > but with ridiculy low impact to the end-user as it
> > > only
> > > > > > > > > crashes the tab
> > > > > > > > > > > it was subjected to, and not the whole browser or
> > > > > operation
> > > > > > > > > system.
> > > > > > > > > > > But the fact remains that this was the impact of a
> DoS
> > > > > > > > > condition,
> > > > > > > > > > > the tab crashes arbritarily.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Eh? If you visit www.evil.com and your tab crashes,
> > > that's
> > > > > no
> > > > > > > > > > different from www.evil.com closing its own tab with
> > > > > > > Javascript.
> > > > > > > > > But what if www.evil.com has run an injection attack of
> > > some
> > > > > > > kind
> > > > > > > > > (SQL,
> > > > > > > > > XSS in blog comments, etc, etc) against www.stupid.com?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Visitors to stupid.com then suffer a DoS...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Yes, stupid.com should run their site better, fix their
> > > > > myriad
> > > > > > > XSS
> > > > > > > > > holes,
> > > > > > > > > etc, etc.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > But this is the Internet, so this "software flaw" can
> be
> > > > > > > leveraged
> > > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > security vulnerability.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I'm with Thierry on this...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Nick FitzGerald
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
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