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Re: can someone please try and explain to me....


From: Jon Janego <jonjanego () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 13:14:23 -0500

I'll respectfully disagree- the entire concept being defined as
"cyberwar" is based on the assumption that cyber attacks will be
government sponsored.  I'd argue that a 'guerilla' style organization
sowing havoc on the internet can be just as effective as a 'cyberwar'
operator as a government could be, maybe more so.

So while 'cyberwar' may be an alarmist term, just because it's not
from a government doesn't mean it's not a war-type activity.  The real
question is, just like the 'war on terrorism' - who are the operators
in the war?

Tech folks haven't even come to an agreement on what would really
constitute a 'cyberwar', so it's not surprising that the media
definitely isn't capable.

On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 10:56 AM, <foofus () foofus net> wrote:
Why people call this so-called Korea DDoS a cyber war? Don't people know
how the Internet works yet?

The problem isn't that people fail to understand how the Internet works
(they do fail at this, but that's not the problem).  The problem is how
exciting it is to use terms like "cyberwar."  In the words of a prominent
researcher:

  if [people shouting "cyberwar"] want to be taken seriously, they need
  to start releasing proof to the mailing lists and name specific
  intelligence agency's who are conducting the Cyberwar. I don't think
  there is a cyberwar, there will be intelligencers probing the networks
  for secrets, thats not a cyberwar. Cyberwar is something completely
  different [...] Cyberwar *could* be real, *look at this*. Although
  the truth is, we haven't seen a Cyberwar yet, it's still in the
  imaginary dream book stage.

Regardless of one's understanding of the Internet, getting to say "cyberwar"
is just too tempting for lots of people to resist.

--Foofus.

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