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Re: [_SUSPEKT] - Re: iDefense Q-1 2007 Challenge - Bayesian Filter detected spam
From: Simon Smith <simon () snosoft com>
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:57:48 -0500
Tim, The name of the business that will be maintaining the Exploit Acquisition Program is Netragard, L.L.C. You can see their web site at http://www.netragard.com. We were not sure if this idea was going to gain any traction at first so we kept the name quiet while we tested the waters. Having said that, anyone could figure out what company it was by doing a bit of research. ;) On 1/17/07 1:33 PM, "Tim Newsham" <newsham () lava net> wrote:
More importantly, the company that I am working with is no different than iDefense. In fact, they both sell their exploits and harvested research to the same people. The only real difference is in the amount of money that the researcher realizes when the transactions are complete. This difference is a direct result of low corporate overhead.[...]IDefense is reselling these exploits to the same third parties as the business that I work for, or at least I assume that they are. BothiDefenseand our buyers use the exact same list of software targets.Is there a reason you are withholding the name of the company you work with? Inquiring minds want to know. We all know about iDefense. (The added secrecy makes one suspicious...)Lastly, all transactions require that the researcher engage the company that I work with in a tight contract. This contract ensures that both parties are legitimate and also protects both parties. They don't do that on the black market do they?Surely someone who was going to break one law would have no qualms about breaking another (ie. contract law)... Tim Newsham http://www.thenewsh.com/~newsham/
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