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Re: iDefense Q-1 2007 Challenge


From: "Mark Sec" <mark.sec () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 22:38:54 -0600

All people black hat,  I agree with you KF I Defense low pay s0x!

- mark





On 16/01/07, ad () heapoverflow com <mr.dovi () gmail com> wrote:

I agree with you KF , that's why I do not recommand iDEFENSE in my
forum's footer since some times now.
They are just playing on the fact they are alone , or they were alone
for a long time on this market, and they do
not wish to do any effort, making loads of dollars with us , to say
clean , they sucks.

AD

K F (lists) wrote:
> No offense to iDefense as I have used their services in the past... but
> MY Q1 2007 Challenge to YOU is to start offering your researchers more
> money in general! I've sold remotely exploitable bugs in random 3rd
> party products for more $$ than you are offering for these Vista items
> (see the h0n0 #3). I really think you guys are devaluing the exploit
> market with your low offers... I've had folks mail me like WOW iDefense
> offered me $800 for this remote exploit. Pfffttt not quite.
>
> We all know black hats are selling these sploits for <=$25k so why
> should the legit folks settle for anything less? As an example the guys
> at MOAB kicked around selling a Quicktime bug to iDefense but in the end
> we decided it was not worth it due to low pay...
>
> Low Pay == Not getting disclosed via iDefense....
>
> -KF
>
>
>
>> I know someone who will pay significantly more per vulnerability
against the
>> same targets.
>>
>>
>> On 1/10/07 12:27 PM, "contributor" <Contributor () idefense com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
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>> Also available at:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
http://labs.idefense.com/vcp/challenge.php#more_q1+2007%3A+vulnerability+chall
>>> enge
>>>
>>>
>> *Challenge Focus: Remote Arbitrary Code Execution Vulnerabilities
>>
>>
>>> in
>>>
>>>
>> Vista & IE 7.0*
>>
>> Both Microsoft Internet Explorer and Microsoft Windows
>>
>>
>>> dominate their
>>>
>>>
>> respective markets, and it is not surprising that the decision
>>
>>
>>> to
>>>
>>>
>> update to the current release of Internet Explorer 7.0 and/or Windows
>> Vista
>>
>>
>>> is fraught with uncertainty.  Primary in the minds of IT
>>>
>>>
>> security
>>
>>
>>> professionals is the question of vulnerabilities that may be
>>>
>>>
>> present in these
>>
>>
>>> two groundbreaking products.
>>>
>>>
>> To help assuage this uncertainty, iDefense Labs
>>
>>
>>> is pleased to announce
>>>
>>>
>> the Q1, 2007 quarterly challenge.
>>
>> Remote Arbitrary
>>
>>
>>> Code Execution Vulnerabilities in Vista and IE 7.0
>>>
>>>
>> Vulnerability
>>
>>
>>> Challenge:
>>>
>>>
>> iDefense will pay $8,000 for each submitted vulnerability that
>>
>>
>>> allows
>>>
>>>
>> an attacker to remotely exploit and execute arbitrary code on either
>> of
>>
>>
>>> these two products.  Only the first submission for a given
>>>
>>>
>> vulnerability will
>>
>>
>>> qualify for the award, and iDefense will award no
>>>
>>>
>> more than six payments of
>>
>>
>>> $8000.  If more than six submissions
>>>
>>>
>> qualify, the earliest six submissions
>>
>>
>>> (based on submission date and
>>>
>>>
>> time) will receive the award.  The iDefense Team
>>
>>
>>> at VeriSign will be
>>>
>>>
>> responsible for making the final determination of whether
>>
>>
>>> or not a
>>>
>>>
>> submission qualifies for the award.  The criteria for this phase
>>
>>
>>> of
>>>
>>>
>> the challenge are:
>>
>> I) Technologies Covered:
>> - -    Microsoft Internet
>>
>>
>>> Explorer 7.0
>>>
>>>
>> - -    Microsoft Windows Vista
>>
>> II) Vulnerability Challenge
>>
>>
>>> Ground Rules:
>>>
>>>
>> - -    The vulnerability must be remotely exploitable and must
>>
>>
>>> allow
>>>
>>>
>> arbitrary code execution in a default installation of one of
>>
>>
>>> the
>>>
>>>
>> technologies listed above
>> - -    The vulnerability must exist in the
>>
>>
>>> latest version of the
>>>
>>>
>> affected technology with all available patches/upgrades
>>
>>
>>> applied
>>>
>>>
>> - -    'RC' (Release candidate), 'Beta', 'Technology Preview'
>>
>>
>>> and
>>>
>>>
>> similar versions of the listed technologies are not included in
>>
>>
>>> this
>>>
>>>
>> challenge
>> - -    The vulnerability must be original and not previously
>>
>>
>>> disclosed
>>>
>>>
>> either publicly or to the vendor by another party
>> - -    The
>>
>>
>>> vulnerability cannot be caused by or require any additional
>>>
>>>
>> third party
>>
>>
>>> software installed on the target system
>>>
>>>
>> - -    The vulnerability must not
>>
>>
>>> require additional social engineering
>>>
>>>
>> beyond browsing a malicious
>>
>>
>>> site
>>>
>>>
>> Working Exploit Challenge:
>> In addition to the $8000 award for the
>>
>>
>>> submitted vulnerability,
>>>
>>>
>> iDefense will pay from $2000 to $4000 for working
>>
>>
>>> exploit code that
>>>
>>>
>> exploits the submitted vulnerability.  The arbitrary code
>>
>>
>>> execution
>>>
>>>
>> must be of an uploaded non-malicious payload.  Submission of
>>
>>
>>> a
>>>
>>>
>> malicious payload is grounds for disqualification from this phase of
>> the
>>
>>
>>> challenge.
>>>
>>>
>> I) Technologies Covered:
>> - -    Microsoft Internet Explorer 7.0
>> -
>>
>>
>>> -    Microsoft Windows Vista
>>>
>>>
>> II) Working Exploit Challenge Ground
>>
>>
>>> Rules:
>>>
>>>
>> Working exploit code must be for the submitted vulnerability only
>>
>>
>>> ­
>>>
>>>
>> iDefense will not consider exploit code for existing vulnerabilities
>> or new
>>
>>
>>> vulnerabilities submitted by others.  iDefense will consider
>>>
>>>
>> one and only one
>>
>>
>>> working exploit for each original vulnerability
>>>
>>>
>> submitted.
>>
>> The minimum award
>>
>>
>>> for a working exploit is $2000.  In addition to the
>>>
>>>
>> base award, additional
>>
>>
>>> amounts up to $4000 may be awarded based upon:
>>>
>>>
>> - -    Reliability of the
>>
>>
>>> exploit
>>>
>>>
>> - -    Quality of the exploit code
>> - -    Readability of the exploit
>>
>>
>>> code
>>>
>>>
>> - -    Documentation of the exploit code
>>
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