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Re: Fw: scanning
From: "Lawrence Tang" <tang.luong () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 08:02:43 -0400
"Vulnerability test" is not "port scan". It could involve attempt to "penetrate" or even penetration of the website through a vulnerable server script for instance. In this particular case, we don't know what RA 8792 in the Philippines says and/or what Tridel Technologies, Inc did. But in general, "port scan" is supposed to be only checking which TCP/IP ports are open for connection without going through the entire process of connection. There is no question of penetration. How could any authority prosecute this legitimately? If I, by mistake, attempt a connection to a site, could I be in legal trouble? How many ports constitute "port scanning"? ----- Original Message -----
From: "Nightfall Nightfall" <danzigfour () gmail com> To: <full-disclosure () lists grok org uk> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 1:26 AM Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] scanning > On 6/2/06, Simon Smith <simon () snosoft com> wrote: > > Guys, > > It is not illegal to port-scan a target IP with or without > > authorization. It would be impossible to prosecute someone because they > > portscanned you. Hell, it would be near impossible to prosecute someone > > who ran nessus against you but never penetrated your systems. From > > expereince, the FBI only takes interest in crimes that cause roughly > > $50,000.00 in damage or more. If you are below that mark or if they are > > too busy... you won't get jack unless you pay for it. > > > > > > > > David Alanis wrote: > > >> Depends on the Jurisdiction... However If I found out that it was my > > >> site, I'd have to debate on whether or not to sue your ass... But that's > > >> just me... > > >> > > > > > > You would not sue anyone. Thats just saying that you would sue anyone under the sun trying to ping or go after some bot trying to scan your Apache box for IIS 5 vulnerabilities. My point is, even if you did realize someone was actively scanning your host, there would be nothing you could do, I think it would be too time consuming. Yet your question still stands. Is it legal or illegal? > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk > > >> [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk] On Behalf Of > > >> Nightfall Nightfall > > >> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 7:54 PM > > >> To: full-disclosure () lists grok org uk > > >> Subject: [Full-disclosure] scanning > > >> > > >> > > >> Is it illegal if I perform a vulnerability scan on a site without > > >> permission from the owner? How about a simple port scan? thanks.. > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > >> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > > >> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > >> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > > >> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > "Great Spirits Have Always Encountered Violent Opposition From Mediocre Minds" - Einstein > > > > > > "Cuanta estupidez en tan poco cerebro!" > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > > > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > BullGuard Anti-virus has scanned this e-mail and found it clean. > > Try BullGuard for free: www.bullguard.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > I brought up this topic coz of these incident > - http://www.pinoytechblog.com/archives/tridel-settles-with-inq7net-on-vuln erability-test-suit > . > I was wondering if they were justified in suing the perpetrator who > did the vulnerability scan on their network. > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >
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Current thread:
- Re: scanning, (continued)
- Re: scanning Neil Davis (Jun 14)
- RE: scanning David Alanis (Jun 01)
- Re: scanning Simon Smith (Jun 01)
- Re: scanning Nightfall Nightfall (Jun 01)
- Re: scanning Valdis . Kletnieks (Jun 01)
- Re: scanning c0redump (Jun 02)
- Re: scanning GroundZero Security (Jun 02)
- Re: scanning ad () heapoverflow com (Jun 02)
- Re: scanning Marcos Agüero (Jun 02)
- Re: scanning Valdis . Kletnieks (Jun 02)
- Re: scanning Simon Smith (Jun 01)
- Re: Fw: scanning Drew Masters (Jun 02)
- Re: Fw: scanning Lawrence Tang (Jun 02)
- Re: scanning GroundZero Security (Jun 12)