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RE: PC Firewall Choices
From: "Greg" <full-disclosure2 () pchandyman com au>
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:56:12 +1100
-----Original Message----- From: Nic Werner [mailto:nicwerner () gmail com] Sent: Wednesday, 18 January 2006 10:42 AM To: Greg Cc: full-disclosure () lists grok org uk Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] PC Firewall Choices On 1/17/06, Greg <full-disclosure2 () pchandyman com au> wrote:-----Original Message----- From: full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk] OnBehalf Of NicWerner Sent: Wednesday, 18 January 2006 10:05 AM To: Steven Cc: full-disclosure () lists grok org uk Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] PC Firewall Choices Importance: High ZoneAlarm - gets in the way, and hard to diagnoseproblems. You endup turning it off because it never remembers yoursettings and youcan't trust it.Rubbish. Sure it gets in the way. It is MEANT to get in the way. If you close it down, it is likely because you don't know how to drive it. The prog CAN be a little hard to newbies to understandif you wantto go internet banking etc but people on this list ought toknow howto handle it.Getting in your way as opposed to letting you get work done are two different things. Kerio does a great job of popping up and explaining what is happening while I've seen more people confused by ZA and its dialogs No, we've turned ZA off as web sites or programs won't load (Ciscoworks, nGenius, etc) and even though we've checked the logs of ZA, nothing shows as being blocked. Turn it off and everything magically works. I will never run the bloat that is ZA.
As I said - if you don't know how to drive it, that will happen. It is variable enough, if you want to use it that is, to allow you to work at any web site the way you want.....either Pro or Free versions, BTW.
Talk about trust, I don't trust the logging capability of ZA at all due to examples like the above. While I enjoy your rant to the choir about not trusting programs, my point is that ZA doesn't show everything while it is actively blocking something.
Did I say I trusted it? I said I loved it as it does a good job of that at least. It also shows so-called security professionals at installations that their belief in harware based protection is just ridiculous. There was no rant from me no preaching to the choir. I guess maybe I stated the bleedingly obvious but then it isnt so obvious to everyone no doubt.
To each their own! As you can see Steven, you should just download each one and spend about a week fussing around. - Nic.
I agree with that but I would also like to point out that whatever you choose, if you don't feel your knowledge is up to it, then you need to read, read and read some more all over the place. Find out every little droplet of info you can about what people have done, found etc with the program of your choice. You may find the program you like because it is so user friendly is not up to scratch while the one that "gets in the way" may suit you better depending on what you want it for once you learn how to drive the damned thing. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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