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RE: RE: when will AV vendors fix this???
From: "Dmitry Yu. Bolkhovityanov" <D.Yu.Bolkhovityanov () inp nsk su>
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 15:07:28 +0700 (NOVST)
On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, Thomas D. wrote:
And even if you hide the file, if it hide the way you describe, you aren't able to execute the file, until you give access to yourself. If you do this, the anti-virus program will also have access.... Keep in mind: If it is an unknown file (zero-day), you don't even think about hiding, because it isn't necessary. You have other problems... => I don't think it is a security related problem nor a problem itself.
Remember: some years ago "off by one" was treated as useless for exploits. Any type of data/file hiding (of course, alternate data streams in the first place) can become the last brick required for some new attack vector. So, while currently I can't present any workable scenario, I wouldn't consider such type of data hiding as "not a security-relate problem". _________________________________________ Dmitry Yu. Bolkhovityanov The Budker Institute of Nuclear Physics Novosibirsk, Russia _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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