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Re: Re: when will AV vendors fix this???
From: "<...>" <massimo () grandmedia si>
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 00:11:46 +0200
good idea indeed and, since ntfs drivers are available for linux for a long time now, someone really willing to fix the issue could start there...
----- Original Message ----- From: "Denis Jedig" <seclists () syneticon de>
To: <full-disclosure () lists grok org uk> Cc: <bugtraq () securityfocus com> Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 10:35 AM Subject: [Full-disclosure] Re: when will AV vendors fix this???
On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 13:05:56 +0545 Bipin Gautam wrote:
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And one more thing, if during AV scan if a file can't be opened due to some processes LOCKING the file.... Instead of going through the regular file open process AV should instead directly read the SECTORS of the hddThis might seem to be a bright idea at first, however, there are problems with this approach. For one, the AV system would have to interpret thefilesystem on its own. Since NTFS is not documented and pretty complicated,this is an error-prone task and I have no confidence AV vendors might be able to master it correctly. Then, even if you are able to read sectors (a non-trivial task under Windows as well), a file is usually not lockedwithout reason - it will likely undergo some changes even *during the scan* so the results will be mostly useless. What you'd use instead is the VolumeShadow Copy (aka Snapshot) feature as done with various backup applications.
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- Re: RE: when will AV vendors fix this??? Bipin Gautam (Aug 15)
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