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Re: What is wrong with schools these days?
From: <bart.lansing () hushmail com>
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:29:20 -0500
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 You have to love it when totally clueless individuals leap into a thread without reading enough of it to form anything but a knee- jerk opinion...which is almost always ill-informed and incorrect, however occasionally amusing. Zap, clearly you fall into the above category...CrYpTic isn't an admin/box owner who got owned or is worrying about his own systems getting owned. He has no boxes of his own that are germain to this thread...except the PC he used to send the mail. Thanks for playing, though. On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 12:54:57 -0500 zap zoid <zoidenator () gmail com> wrote:
Since when is Zone-H an authoritative source. For Pauls next trick, he'll have you all believing that President Bush is a genius. Paul, maybe for CrYpTic the statement holds true. Do you know him personally? Have your broken into any of his linux boxen? Maybe he
doesn't run linux but rather HPUX, IRIX, Solaris, OpenSolaris or even Windows. Just because your users are idiots doesn't mean CrYpTic is an idiot. You seem overly agitated today, are you getting ready to launch an
attack? On 4/25/06, Paul Schmehl <pauls () utdallas edu> wrote:CrYpTiC MauleR wrote:All you had to say was Microsoft =oPThat's hilarious. The number one defaced website OS is Linux.(SeeZone-H.org if you don't believe me.) The number one problem I have here is unix boxes. You know why? Because a lot of open-source bozos run around claiming unix ismoresecure than Windows. So a lot of clueless people think that, if
theyjust set up a RedHat box, they won't have anything to worryabout.Ask them what that little red ball with the X in it is - youknow - theone flashing up there in the taskbar- and they'll say I dunno. No OS is secure by default. No OS can remain secure if it's not properly configured and maintained. Look at your box right now.
Howmany of you have inetd or xinetd running? Why? What servicesdoes itprovide that you need? Do you even know what chargen orrpc.statd is?If not, why are they running (if they are)? How many of youhave aworkstation running with more than just ssh enabled and *no*firewallrunning? You name the OS, and I can tell you of at least one incident ofhacking.We haven't had a Windows box hacked in a long time. The lastfivewere two Macs and three RedHat boxes. Does that mean Macs andRedHatare insecure? NO! It means, until the general publicunderstands theproblem and knows what the solution is, hacking will continueapace withno sign of letting up. The real problem is ignorance. -- Paul Schmehl (pauls () utdallas edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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- Re: What is wrong with schools these days?, (continued)
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