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RE: [inbox] Re: Hacking Boot camps!
From: "Exibar" <exibar () thelair com>
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 18:05:44 -0500
dude.... Those sounds like words that are coming from someone that tried to pass a SANS exam but failed....or someone that thought they could get a job working for SANS but wasn't accepted.... I'm not saying this happened to you, but there is much emotion in your reply. What SANS course are you basing this on? Did you take any SANS courses? What would you suggest as more ethical than SANS? A vendor given course like Foundstone (McAfee now)? Just curious.... Exibar
-----Original Message----- From: InfoSecBOFH [mailto:infosecbofh () gmail com] Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 12:42 PM To: Exibar Cc: full-disclosure () lists grok org uk Subject: [inbox] Re: [Full-disclosure] Hacking Boot camps! On 11/23/05, Exibar <exibar () thelair com> wrote:I agree, BUT for someone that is just starting out and want'sto get intothe InfoSec field. SANS will provide them with a very usefulfoundation tostart from. if they're a PC tech, and don't know where to start, a SANStype courseis money well spent. AS LONG AS they back it up with their ownpractice andresearch on their own.WRONG. SANS does not provide anything but marketing opportunities for vendors who cannot sell product any other way and a thicker wallet for those at the top of the pyramid scheme. I agree that training when you are starting out is important but SANS is not an ethical or legitimate training institution and does more to harm security than it does to help.
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