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Re: <Cisco Message> Mike Lynn's controversial CiscoSecurity Presentation
From: "DAN MORRILL" <dan_20407 () msn com>
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 15:19:47 +0000
From what I understand (I am writing a major paper on Intellectual PropertyProtection right now, the Joy of being a student) the creator of the data has the direct right under Title 17 and the DMCA to determine how the data will be used (hence expiring CDR's and DRM).
If data is sent in error that does not limit or otherwise reduce the rights of the data owner, and the data owner can request that the data be removed. The data owner can also request assurances that the data has been removed from all parties that they believe have copies of that data. Cisco in their message has acted according to American law by requesting that all copies of the data that is held in private hands be deleted as they are the acting IP owners along with ISS. Cisco is acting as the agent of the IP owner (much like RIAA and MPAA do for artists and movie makers).
Their request is quite legal, and at least they were polite about it.If anyone wants more data on this subject (which is way off topic for FD), I can provide it separately or as private conversation.
Regards, DanSometimes MSN E-mail will indicate that the mesasge failed to be delivered. Please resend when you get those, it does not mean that the mail box is bad, merely that MSN mail is over worked at the time.
From: Daniel <deeper () gmail com> Reply-To: Daniel <deeper () gmail com> To: Russell Smoak <rsmoak () cisco com>CC: full-disclosure () lists grok org uk, nanog () merit edu, fergdawg () netzero net Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] <Cisco Message> Mike Lynn's controversial CiscoSecurity PresentationDate: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 00:24:33 +0100 This raises an interesting point, if intellectual property is sent in error, do any of the laws pertaining to said property apply 100% or is there a weird shift of how they are applied? On 7/29/05, Russell Smoak <rsmoak () cisco com> wrote: > All, >> These recipients received an email from Austin Mckinley as Cisco Systems.> > This messasge was sent in complete error and includes intellectual > property of ISS and Cisco Systems. Please delete and do not distrbute > the information any further. > > If you have any quesitons, please contact the Cisco PSIRT team. > > > Thank you for your cooperation. > > > > -- > Russell Smoak <rsmoak () cisco com> > Sr. Manager, PSIRT > Customer Assurance Programs > c i s c o S y s t e m s > Phone: 615-791-0972 > Cell: 615-545-6473 > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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