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Re: Wireless ISPs
From: Sean Milheim <sean () idreus com>
Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 18:59:24 -0400
Dan, Your reasoning is quite skewed. Yes wireless ISP's should have encryption and most do. It is very poor accounting and business procedures to let everyoune on your network and use it for free. Unless maybe you are thinking of a WAP at a coffee house. However saying that wireless ISP's are responsible for an irresponsible merchant sending sensitive information over an insecure medium is quite reckless. How about we hold the person responsible that initially creates the problem and not hand it off to someone who you already seem to have a vendetta against. -- Sean Milheim <sean () idreus com> iDREUS Corporation
--- Begin Message --- From: D B <geggam692000 () yahoo com>
Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 14:45:27 -0700 (PDT)
Hi Frank Tis a multiple faceted thing The one point it can be addresssed for everyone is at the wireless AP, thus I would conclude it is their responsibility. Im reasonably sure a jury would follow suit, especially when they find out raising the bar to limit this would take entering a "password" at the access point and the wireless customer. This isnt nature and leaving it alone doesnt fall under an act of god exclusion, there are easily used methods of limiting this and if they arent used I could see a serious lawsuit. ( IANAL disclaimer ) They wouldnt even have to use WEP or WAP, merely using a secure mail server would raise the level one step above plaintext spewing of data. SSL for websites that need it and email would limit sniffing to finding out who is a pervert in the area. (that could be a good thing) Dan Becker --- Frank Knobbe <frank () knobbe us> wrote:On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 14:20, D B wrote:[...] Guess what ? the Credit card # and address are in that email.The ones I get have several **** in them. It's again a blanket statement you make. Besides, I think you're confusing web sites operators/developers with {wired|wireless} ISPs. Cheers, FrankATTACHMENT part 2 application/pgp-signaturename=signature.asc __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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Current thread:
- Re: Wireless ISPs, (continued)
- Re: Wireless ISPs Jeff Workman (May 11)
- Re: Wireless ISPs Maarten (May 11)
- Re: Wireless ISPs Valdis . Kletnieks (May 11)
- Re: Wireless ISPs Ron DuFresne (May 12)
- Re: Wireless ISPs KUIJPERS Jimmy (May 12)
- Re: Wireless ISPs Frank Knobbe (May 11)
- Re: Wireless ISPs D B (May 11)
- Re: Wireless ISPs Kurt Seifried (May 11)
- Re: Wireless ISPs D B (May 11)
- Re: Wireless ISPs Chris Adams (May 11)
- Re: Wireless ISPs Sean Milheim (May 11)
- Re: Wireless ISPs Valdis . Kletnieks (May 11)
- Re: Wireless ISPs Scott Taylor (May 11)
- RE: Wireless ISPs Aditya, ALD [Aditya Lalit Deshmukh] (May 12)
- Re: Wireless ISPs Valdis . Kletnieks (May 12)
- RE: Wireless ISPs Michael Gargiullo (May 11)