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Re: FW: Re: Cisco's stolen code


From: ktabic <ktabic () ktabic co uk>
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 09:25:17 +0000

On Thu, 2004-05-27 at 16:11, Maarten wrote:
Note that if you came into possession of something but there is no evidence of 
a worm uploading that stuff, you'd probably still be screwed.  Let's say they 
find you have all manuscipts of Stephen King in your possession.  Would you 
be successful in argueing that you got that through spyware ? I think not.

That depends on where you are, and what a jury believes:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3202116.stm
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/10/17/caffrey_acquittal_a_setback/
There are similar cases but with trojans found:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3202116.stm
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/10/28/suspected_paedophile_cleared_by_computer/

Meanwhile, your point tends to get a little offtopic, if only for the fact 
that the OP asked for [a place to find] the code.  Whatever happens after 
that, if he later receives the code 'by miracle' he will still be unable to 
convince a court he did not actively sollicit it.  It's akin to asking around 
for poison: from then on you better pray your wife doesn't suddenly die.
Cause if she does, you'd be prime suspect number One, with sugar on top...

Of course, evidence that the person found with the copyright stuff had
been asking for it should counteract any trojan defense.

ktabic
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www.ktabic.co.uk
Many sysadmins won't give you the time of day.
Thats what NTP is for.

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