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RE: RE: SUPER SPOOF DELUXE Re: Microsoft and Security
From: "http-equiv () excite com" <1 () malware com>
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 21:52:17 -0000
That's very sweet of you my dear. Instead of guessing like you normally do you, you're now thinking. You're now replicating the exact same demos that are currently on the table. Not like the pretended before. But you're a bit late to the party. Because this has to be specially crafted and is only functional under a set of circumstances. That my boy is what security is about. I am in the process of engaging a 'real' security expert, the original finder from 6 years ago, to explain it, since despite self-proclamations about our expertise, we all know nothing. Some of us aren't shy about that, others...well...you know. Thor Larholm <thor () pivx com> said:
Both you and I know perfectly well that Windows Update serves a different page for non-IE browsers, and that that page does
not contain
any frames. You should focus on the facts instead of letting
your hatred
for Microsoft overwhelm you. Since you have trouble reproducing a very simple example I
have instead
put this example online: http://www.jscript.dk/2004/7/subframe/ Open the page. Click the first button called "Open window".
Click the
second button called "Load page". See that the page from
geocities.com
is now loaded inside the subframe on jscript.dk. As you can see, this is perfectly reproduceable in both IE,
Mozilla,
Firefox and Opera. This is of course provided that they allow
popups in
the first place, but as I mentioned in my previous posts you
can
acomplish the same with inline frames instead of a new browser
window.
To make doubly sure, I even downloaded fresh copies of Firefox
0.9.1
(worked fine in 'Safe Mode' as well) and Opera 7.51. Regards Thor Larholm Senior Security Researcher PivX Solutions 23 Corporate Plaza #280 Newport Beach, CA 92660 http://www.pivx.com thor () pivx com Stock symbol: (PIVX.OB) Phone: +1 (949) 231-8496 PGP: 0x5A276569 6BB1 B77F CB62 0D3D 5A82 C65D E1A4 157C 5A27 6569 PivX defines a new genre in Desktop Security: Proactive Threat Mitigation. <http://www.pivx.com/qwikfix> -----Original Message----- From: http-equiv () excite com [mailto:1 () malware com] Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 1:09 PM To: Thor Larholm; 1 () malware com; bugtraq () securityfocus com Cc: NTBugtraq () listserv ntbugtraq com Subject: RE: SUPER SPOOF DELUXE Re: [Full-disclosure]
Microsoft and
Security Yes of course. Two tiny problems though: 1. your little scriplet doesn't work for me. I get: 'W.frames.2.location' is null or not an object 2. If as you claim this is "standard practice" then there is
something
wrong with these browsers as it apparently does not work on
them:
The following browsers are not affected: * Mozilla Firefox 0.9 for Windows * Mozilla Firefox 0.9.1 for Windows * Mozilla 1.7 for Windows * Mozilla 1.7 for Linux http://secunia.com/advisories/11978/ Perhaps someone who really knows will enlighten us all.
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- RE: SUPER SPOOF DELUXE Re: Microsoft and Security http-equiv () excite com (Jul 01)
- Re: SUPER SPOOF DELUXE Re: Microsoft and Security Daniel Veditz (Jul 02)
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- RE: RE: SUPER SPOOF DELUXE Re: Microsoft and Security http-equiv () excite com (Jul 01)
- RE: SUPER SPOOF DELUXE Re: Microsoft and Security http-equiv () excite com (Jul 01)
- RE: SUPER SPOOF DELUXE Re: Microsoft and Security Thor Larholm (Jul 01)
- RE: SUPER SPOOF DELUXE Re: Microsoft and Security Pavel Kankovsky (Jul 01)
- RE: RE: SUPER SPOOF DELUXE Re: Microsoft and Security Thor Larholm (Jul 01)
- RE: SUPER SPOOF DELUXE Re: Microsoft and Security Thor Larholm (Jul 01)
- Re: SUPER SPOOF DELUXE Re: Microsoft and Security Bob Perriero (Jul 02)
- RE: RE: SUPER SPOOF DELUXE Re: Microsoft and Security http-equiv () excite com (Jul 01)
- Re: RE: SUPER SPOOF DELUXE Re: Microsoft and Security Gregory A. Gilliss (Jul 01)
- Re: RE: SUPER SPOOF DELUXE Re: Microsoft and Security John Sage (Jul 02)
- RE: RE: SUPER SPOOF DELUXE Re: Microsoft and Security Mark Laurence (Jul 02)
- Re: RE: SUPER SPOOF DELUXE Re: Microsoft and Security Gregory A. Gilliss (Jul 01)