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Re: Web sites compromised by IIS attack
From: "Akos Szalkai" <szalkai () 2fkft com>
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 16:43:31 +0200
On Thu, Jul 01, 2004 at 06:09:05AM -0400, Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu created magic using only numbers:
On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 21:08:27 CDT, Paul Schmehl <pauls () utdallas edu> said:I attended a presentation yesterday for a security product in the application firewall field. During the presentation, the CISSP stated that "in every 1000 lines of code there will be 15 errors".Actually, I suspect most coders are *worse* than that.
You may be right, but your calculations are an order of magnitude off. :)
Sendmail 8.13.0 weighs in at just about 90K lines of C code for the main program. By that metric, there should only have been 135 bugs in it. In fact, there are 441 occurrences of 'Problem noted by' in the release notes.
Maybe you were not really awake yet (look at the Date header!), but if its 15 errors/KLOC, then 90K lines of code should have 90*15=1350 bugs, not 9*15=135. You made the same mistake with BIND. I do not like those two pieces of software, but this time you showed that the Sendmail/BIND people are better than the average programmer. Akos -- Akos Szalkai <szalkai () 2f hu> Principal IT Consultant, CISA 2F 2000 Szamitastechnikai es Szolgaltato Kft. Tel: (+36-1)-4887700 Fax: (+36-1)-4887709 WWW: http://www.2f.hu/ _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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- Re: Web sites compromised by IIS attack Frank Knobbe (Jun 30)
- Re: Web sites compromised by IIS attack Paul Schmehl (Jun 30)
- Re: Web sites compromised by IIS attack Frank Knobbe (Jun 30)
- Re: Web sites compromised by IIS attack Denis Dimick (Jun 30)
- Re: Web sites compromised by IIS attack Aditya, ALD [ Aditya Lalit Deshmukh ] (Jun 30)
- Re: Web sites compromised by IIS attack Frank Knobbe (Jun 30)
- Re: Web sites compromised by IIS attack Denis Dimick (Jun 30)
- Re: Web sites compromised by IIS attack (fully off topic!) Aditya, ALD [ Aditya Lalit Deshmukh ] (Jun 30)
- Re: Web sites compromised by IIS attack Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 01)
- Re: Web sites compromised by IIS attack Raj Mathur (Jul 01)
- Re: Web sites compromised by IIS attack Maarten (Jul 01)
- Re: Web sites compromised by IIS attack Akos Szalkai (Jul 05)
- Re: Web sites compromised by IIS attack Paul Schmehl (Jun 30)
- Re: Web sites compromised by IIS attack Denis Dimick (Jun 30)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: Web sites compromised by IIS attack Stuart Fox (DSL AK) (Jun 30)
- RE: Web sites compromised by IIS attack Denis Dimick (Jul 01)
- RE: [OT] Web sites compromised by IIS attack Eric Paynter (Jul 01)
- Re: [OT] Web sites compromised by IIS attack codec (Jul 01)
- Re: [OT] Web sites compromised by IIS attack Denis Dimick (Jul 01)
- Re: [OT] Web sites compromised by IIS attack ken (Jul 01)
- Re: [OT] Web sites compromised by IIS attack Denis Dimick (Jul 01)
- Re: [OT] Web sites compromised by IIS attack Denis Dimick (Jul 01)
- RE: Web sites compromised by IIS attack Denis Dimick (Jul 01)