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RE: Anti-MS drivel
From: "Mike Marshall" <mmarshall112 () comcast net>
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 22:17:35 -0500
Finger-pointing is a trivial task, solving the M$ problem isn't. M$ has built one of the best UIs on the planet, but that doesn't give them a license to ignore all of the security problems in their OS. Check out Red Hat 9. We should exit and destroy our ivory towers; they have no useful purpose anymore. Smart and creative people succeed, regardless of the era/technology/company/product. Mike -----Original Message----- From: full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com [mailto:full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com] On Behalf Of yossarian Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 8:04 PM To: full-disclosure () lists netsys com Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Anti-MS drivel Erich wrote:
What MS actually does is leading customers into a trap. MS Products look as if they were so easy to use that _every_ body colud work with it, just like that - "you don't need to know a thing". Intuitive User interface etc.
So, basically, you are blaming the MS people for building a UI that can be used by anyone. Duh. Let's give 'em a TSO interface. That'll scare them away from the computer so they won't just click on any attachment. Better still, they would be using typewriters. Yep, I still miss my Underwood, like others miss the Unix prompt - not concealing the complexity of the beast, or worse. At the same time we can withdraw to the ivory tower of the IT department, where users are just a nuisance. Lets call it Data Central. Don't forget users pay the bill. And to put it bluntly - your job would not exist if it had not been for the PC revolution. Neither would mine. Without MS's distributive powers and later - mid 90s - marketing power, grey haired people probably would still be scribbling in COBOL and we would be delivering the internal mail - by hand in those funny envelopes where you strike out the name of the user before you. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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- Re: Anti-MS drivel, (continued)
- Re: Anti-MS drivel Gregh (Jan 21)
- Re: Anti-MS drivel Tobias Weisserth (Jan 22)
- Re: Anti-MS drivel Gregh (Jan 23)
- Re: Anti-MS drivel Nick FitzGerald (Jan 23)
- RE: OT: was Anti-MS drivel; SCO fights GPL Andreas Bischoff (Jan 23)
- Re: OT: was Anti-MS drivel; SCO fights GPL Jeremiah Cornelius (Jan 23)
- Re: Anti-MS drivel Cael Abal (Jan 22)
- Re: Anti-MS drivel Gregh (Jan 23)
- Re: Anti-MS drivel Erich Buri (Jan 20)
- Re: Anti-MS drivel yossarian (Jan 20)
- RE: Anti-MS drivel Mike Marshall (Jan 20)
- Re: Anti-MS drivel Jeremiah Cornelius (Jan 20)
- Re: Anti-MS drivel Tobias Weisserth (Jan 21)
- Re: Anti-MS drivel yossarian (Jan 21)
- Re: Anti-MS drivel Tobias Weisserth (Jan 21)
- Re: Anti-MS drivel yossarian (Jan 21)
- Re: Anti-MS drivel Tobias Weisserth (Jan 21)
- Re: Anti-MS drivel yossarian (Jan 21)
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- Re: Anti-MS drivel yossarian (Jan 21)
- Re: Anti-MS drivel Bart . Lansing (Jan 23)
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- Re: Anti-MS drivel Nick FitzGerald (Jan 24)