RE: Just when you thought Macafee stuff was safe!

["Tim Saunders" <Tim.Saunders () aquilauk co uk>]

Or if your users have McAfee Virus scan wait for them to download a
large compressed file, I find zips of oracle CDs from partner.oracle.com
do nicely. Now watch McAfee crash as it tries to scan the contents of
the zip and times out (I believe) thus leaving the machine nice and
vulnerable since it doesn't auto restart. Any 300MB+ Zip, .tar.gz,
.cpio.gz etc seems to work. Smaller files may also work depending on
your machine.

Tim Saunders

> -----Original Message-----
> From: gregh [mailto:chows () ozemail com au] 
> Sent: 23 September 2003 14:35
> To: full-disclosure () lists netsys com
> Subject: [Full-disclosure] Just when you thought Macafee 
> stuff was safe!
>
>
> Try this one out for yourself.
>
> 1) Make sure you have all this set up on an email address 
> that is getting lots of the latest virus infected emails.
>
> 2) Install Macafee Virusscan Online (AKA Macafee VSO).
>
> 3) Install Macafee's Spamkiller.
>
> 4) Note they are from the same company.
>
> 5) Pick up email with Spamkiller while VSO is running in the 
> background.
>
> 6) Note how, for every infected email, you have to click 
> "continue what I was doing" and "No" to "Do you want to scan 
> your computer?"......as said for EVERY DAMNED EMAIL!
>
> 7) At some point during the email being checked by 
> Spamkiller, watch Spamkiller stuff up as VSO has deleted log 
> files etc that it decided were infected and auto cleaned.
>
> 8) Now imagine you have a network of around 20 or so users 
> (more, if you
> like) all with Macafee VSO and Spamkiller all going through 
> what you just put yourself through and realise that your 
> users probably just use computers to do their work on (and 
> dirty web browsing habits - but that's another
> story!) and cant afford the time to keep answering two 
> questions per incoming email and then deal with the fact that 
> Spamkiller has crashed or otherwise made life difficult. 
> Imagine, if you were that user rushing to meet a deadline, 
> what you would do? If you had the ability, you would stop 
> Macafee VSO and/or Spamkiller and continue on.
>
> 9) Now with Spamkiller AND Macafee VSO stopped, imagine what 
> work YOU will have very shortly, fixing this.
>
> 10) Now start to wonder what the Bofh'n heck you chose these 
> two products for when they do that and why it is that Macafee 
> hasnt fixed this!
>
> .....sorta makes you realise why a major epidemic like we are 
> currently experiencing works when users are forced to turn 
> off the things meant to make their life easier and protect 
> them to some extent, huh?
>
> Greg.
>
>
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