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RE: Hacker suspect says his PC was hijacked
From: "Mike" <mjcarter () ihug co nz>
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:08:37 +1300
OK my point was (sorry I didn't state it accurately enough)that you can't compare cars to computers becuase the warrantee/fitness needed for a car to be allowed on the road is massively different to having a computer on the internet because firstly the car needs to be legally on the road and secondly the driver needs to be licenced e.g tested and past an exam to use the road. For example in this country to operate a car you need: 1/To have a licence to drive 2/Your car has to be licenced to be on the road 3/Your car needs a warrant of fitness signifing that it is safe note: you can't get 2/ unless you have 3/ and if you don't have 1/ then you don't have a car. All regardless of where you buy the car from. If there is a known defect and/or recall for the model of car you are using, you have to take it in and get it fixed otherwise you are not legaly safe on the road. The hardware thing (the way I ment it) "physicaly" when hardware crashes it hurts/kills, when software crashes it's more a pain in the butt than anything! Harry I eco your thoughts! :-) Cheers Mike -----Original Message----- From: full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com [mailto:full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com]On Behalf Of Harry Hoffman Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 3:24 PM To: full-disclosure () lists netsys com Subject: RE: [Full-disclosure] Hacker suspect says his PC was hijacked Great give MS another service to sell ;-) Of course they will require complete access to your computer to give you the "full service". Cheers, Harry Quoting Bojan Zdrnja <Bojan.Zdrnja () LSS hr>: *> Ok, I think car-computer anology is *COMPLETELY* stupid, but here comes *> another ... *> *> > -----Original Message----- *> > From: full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com *> > [mailto:full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com] On Behalf Of *> > Joshua Levitsky *> > Sent: Tuesday, 14 October 2003 5:21 a.m. *> > To: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu *> > Cc: full-disclosure () lists netsys com *> > Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Hacker suspect says his PC was *> > hijacked *> > *> > Or is it -your- responsibility to take it to an authorized dealer to *> > have the recall performed? Nobody makes you service your car. Nobody *> *> Nobody makes you service your car? *> *> In all countries I lived in so far, you have to check your car at an *> official service at least once a year, and somewhere once each six months to *> be able to drive it. That official service should check all critical things *> about your car and if something is wrong, it'll sent you to a mechanic. *> *> I don't see that being done with computers (ie. No official service checks *> your Windows every 6 months and if they are not ok, you can't use them *> anymore). *> *> I also think this thread is stupid :) But that's my opinion only. *> *> Cheers, *> *> Bojan *> *> _______________________________________________ *> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. *> Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html *> -- Harry Hoffman hhoffman () ip-solutions net #----------------------------------------------------------------# # Harry: version 4.0a # # Known bugs: # # 1) Verbal output may occur before data processing is complete. # # 2) Loudspeaker option may activate without being invoked. # # 3) Other bugs as reported # #----------------------------------------------------------------# ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IpSolutions: http://www.ip-solutions.net/ _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
Current thread:
- Re: Hacker suspect says his PC was hijacked, (continued)
- Re: Hacker suspect says his PC was hijacked Joshua Levitsky (Oct 13)
- Re: Hacker suspect says his PC was hijacked Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 13)
- Re: Hacker suspect says his PC was hijacked Joshua Levitsky (Oct 13)
- Re: Hacker suspect says his PC was hijacked Joshua Levitsky (Oct 13)
- Re: Hacker suspect says his PC was hijacked Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 13)
- Re: Hacker suspect says his PC was hijacked Joshua Levitsky (Oct 13)
- Re: Hacker suspect says his PC was hijacked Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 13)
- RE: Hacker suspect says his PC was hijacked Bojan Zdrnja (Oct 13)
- RE: Hacker suspect says his PC was hijacked Scott Renna (Oct 13)
- RE: Hacker suspect says his PC was hijacked Harry Hoffman (Oct 13)
- RE: Hacker suspect says his PC was hijacked Mike (Oct 13)
- Re: Hacker suspect says his PC was hijacked Joshua Levitsky (Oct 13)
- RE: Hacker suspect says his PC was hijacked Ron DuFresne (Oct 13)