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Re: Microsoft moves beyond patches
From: Ron DuFresne <dufresne () winternet com>
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 16:51:07 -0500 (CDT)
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:
On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 11:50:15 CDT, Ron DuFresne said:Unless you are promoting host based defense, which is not quite there yet, and an administrative nightmare, I think you'd find a strong argument this is *not* the case, at least at present.Tell that to all the corporate nets that have been whacked by a worm brought in on a laptop, VPN connection, or other similar backdoor. (yes yes, I know it's a "failure to define perimeter correctly". The fact that it wasn't defined correctly *IS* the problem with the technology....)
nonono, certainly not a problem with the technology, nor the philosophy, but an implimentation error. Afterall, as you hint, they opend a backdoor and got slammed by it. I've been for years now saying that VPN's are not the endall to beall and are used far *too* freely and frequently. Punch a hole or two in a firewall and it's on it's way to becoming little more then a standard router. Thanks, Ron DuFresne ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Cutting the space budget really restores my faith in humanity. It eliminates dreams, goals, and ideals and lets us get straight to the business of hate, debauchery, and self-annihilation." -- Johnny Hart ***testing, only testing, and damn good at it too!*** OK, so you're a Ph.D. Just don't touch anything. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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- Re: Microsoft moves beyond patches Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 02)
- Re: Microsoft moves beyond patches Ron DuFresne (Oct 02)
- Re: Microsoft moves beyond patches Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 02)