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RE: Destroying PCs remotely?
From: "JT" <ptourvi1 () twcny rr com>
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 19:18:34 -0400
-----Original Message----- From: full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com [mailto:full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com] On Behalf Of Shawn McMahon Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 4:46 PM To: full-disclosure () lists netsys com Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Destroying PCs remotely? On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 02:45:51PM -0400, JT said:the sunset clause, which they are attempting. Also, are youunder somedilusion that there are a finite number of "bad" people outthere. You think Are you under the dElusion that there are an infinite number of people capable and willing to perform large-scale terrorist acts? If so, please explain why they don't happen daily, and where the infinite number of people are stored. (Hint: "everywhere".)
Yes I am, they are called babies, they then grow up and are being trained by age 12 to kill. You must think terrorism just started this generation? You do realize there were terrorists before you were born right? They do happen daily, just because they don't happen in the US does not mean they don't happen. You must think if you don't see it on the news, it's not happening. Also, I'm sure the general public is not privy to EVERY terrorist action that has been stopped in the US, and that could be one reason they don't happen everyday. But, for arguments sake, please explain to me how locking up the terrorists who bombed the WTC stopped 9/11.
you can just eradicate them all? You believe that if theyare captured theypose no threat? Oh boy....you really do live in some sortof dreamworld. Yes, I believe that no further terrorist acts have been committed by the folks we're holding in lockup in Guantanamo Bay. If you have some evidence as to the attacks they've committed since being locked up, I'll be glad to look at it.
Oh, so you meant Guantanamo Bay eh? So you're positive that they didn't speak or communicate anything to anyone at anytime that could be used against us?
Further, I believe that no further terrorist acts have been committed by the ones we've killed. If you have some evidence as to the attacks they've committed since being killed, I'll be glad to look at it.
I'm sure you would..
It's a pity you can't stay on the argument at hand whichhad to do withremotely destroying someones pc for copyright infringement.Please relatethat to 9/11 for me somehow cause I see no correlation. Mycomment about the You referenced the Patriot Act as being an example of wrongdoing on Hatch's part. Are you honestly trying to say that this is not a point open to debate, and further that anyone involved in the discussion should have "just known" that it wasn't open for debate?
Yes, it's not relevant when the subject line of the email and the entire discussion was regarding property destruction for copyright infringement. It's generally agreed that the patriot act takes away too many liberties so I would not be debating that point at all. I believe the debate after that is only whether or not you support them taking away our rights under the guise of security....and I know where you stand on that.
patriot act was to demonstrate Hatch's past history, in noway did I relateit to 9/11.The fact that you didn't relate it does not make it not related.
Newsflash everyone: destruction of property due to copyright infringement IS related to 9/11.....by someones wild imagination.
It's already been proven that the reason 9/11 happened was due to a breakdown in intel. communication between departments.Please explain Yes; and part of what the Patriot Act does is make it LEGAL for those departments to communicate in the necessary ways. It wasn't before.
OK, then lets use your logic above, please explain why there have been no 9/11's in the past even without the patriot act.
continues to provide a false sense of security. They'vealready demonstratedwithin 1 month of 9/11 that another plane could be takeneasily, so it wouldseem you are not so safe.Exactly why we needed reforms of the laws regarding how we defend ourselves. You'll note that there have been no more successful large-scale attacks, despite the presence of more attackers. You'll further note that we've been capturing and/or killing the tangoes in literally record numbers. And, for the "it's not temporary" folks, have let quite a few people go after it was determined that they no longer posed a clear and present threat.
More attackers? I thought we locked/killed them? You'll note that they could have SUCCESSFULLY CARRIED OUT AN ATTACK EVEN AFTER THE PATRIOT ACT WAS SIGNED, the airports are still insecure. Wow, we can kill substabdard soldiers and homeless people in record numbers, that's something to shout about. Please note how they still kill us also though. Also please note it's generally believed the people crashing the planes did not have a connection with the people we are now killing in record numbers.
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- Re: Destroying PCs remotely?, (continued)
- Re: Destroying PCs remotely? Shawn McMahon (Jun 19)
- RE: Destroying PCs remotely? JT (Jun 19)
- Re: Destroying PCs remotely? Shawn McMahon (Jun 19)
- Re: Destroying PCs remotely? Benjamin Krueger (Jun 19)
- Re: Destroying PCs remotely? Jeremiah Cornelius (Jun 19)
- RE: Destroying PCs remotely? JT (Jun 19)
- Re: Destroying PCs remotely? Shawn McMahon (Jun 19)
- RE: Destroying PCs remotely? Rick Thompson (Jun 19)
- RE: Destroying PCs remotely? JT (Jun 19)
- Re: Destroying PCs remotely? Shawn McMahon (Jun 19)
- RE: Destroying PCs remotely? JT (Jun 19)
- Re: Destroying PCs remotely? Justin (Jun 19)
- RE: Destroying PCs remotely? JT (Jun 19)
- Re: Destroying PCs remotely? Shawn McMahon (Jun 20)
- RE: Destroying PCs remotely? JT (Jun 20)
- Re: Destroying PCs remotely? Shawn McMahon (Jun 20)
- RE: Destroying PCs remotely? JT (Jun 21)
- Re: Destroying PCs remotely? Ron DuFresne (Jun 19)
- Re: Destroying PCs remotely? Shawn McMahon (Jun 20)
- Re: Destroying PCs remotely? Ron DuFresne (Jun 18)