Re: RE : [Secure Network Operations, Inc.] Full Disclosure != Exploit Release

[Steve Poirot <poirotsj () gci net>]

So many posts on Full Disclosure, like this one, show that
many are using the list more for ego building and childlike flaming than
for useful information and constructive dialog.  What a shame.  At least
this kind of behavior could kept private rather than posting it to everyone
on the mailing list!

Day Jay wrote:

> ok, 
>
> do you honestly think that I didn't have a copy of
> that already? Like I don't know how to search google?
> Hmmmm, ok, yeah, I'm so lame I need to send you an
> e-mail to get an exploit for something that was
> released like months ago. I think you may be
> lost...hmmm, you may be a victim of social
> engineering, I recommend checking your machine for
> viruses/worms/trojans.
>
> Anyway, let it be known that you stopped releasing
> exploits because of the darkside looming over your
> shoulders. Just admit it.
>
> By they way, in terms of talent-> EEYE blows Snosoft
> out of the water with a blink of an eeye.
>
> Dude, just close SNOW and become an independant
> consultant. Don't act like some big security company,
> like some big player in the game.
>
> ->To: KF <dotslash () snosoft com>
>
> ->looking for the freebsd exploit on the syskey...
> ->Also, checking to see if any new exploits were
> posted
> ->on the site....
>
> kinda ironic I think...
>
>
>
>  
>
> > But at least, Snosoft can now call themselves
> > Blackhats. Wohoo, another blackhat added to the
> >    
> list.
>  
>
> > PHC up, hoes down.
> >    
>
> Better scratch that out... hats do not fit very well
> on my afro.
>
>
> --- KF <dotslash () snosoft com> wrote:
>  
>
> > Day Jay wrote:
> >    
> >
> > > First of all, 
> > >
> > > In my humble opinion: SNOSOFT hasn't offered
> > >      
> > anything
> >    
> >
> > > useful in terms of full disclosure. Where are the
> > > advisories?
> > >      
> > I will be the first to admidt I have not been the
> > best at organising a 
> > proper advisory repository but there are plenty of
> > them out there...
> >
> > I was one of those people that assumed bugtraq would
> > not "change" and 
> > that when it came time for me to place all my work
> > in a nice advisory 
> > database I could go there an retrieve my
> > information.... because of that 
> > I did not take the time to make pretty ISS and eEye
> > style 
> > advisories...and you can not find them on our page
> > but they were made 
> > available.... SRT2002 should work just fine in any
> > search engine.
> >
> > Heres a few randomly...
> >
> >
> >    
> http://cert.uni-stuttgart.de/archive/bugtraq/2002/06/msg00032.html
>  
>
> http://www.opennet.ru/base/sco/988181601_2005.txt.html
>  
>
> http://www.opennet.ru/base/sco/988181601_1997.txt.html
>  
>
> http://www.opennet.ru/base/sco/988181601_1979.txt.html
>  
>
> > > I know alot of people are going to love the fact
> > >      
> > that
> >    
> >
> > > Snosoft stopped trying to release exploits, but I
> > >      
> > know
> >    
> >
> > > some script kids that are going to be devastated
> > >      
> > about
> >    
> >
> > > this.
> > >      
> > You mean like you and the rest of your buddies? Was
> > it not you that 
> > mailed me a few days ago because we took the httpd
> > offline and you could 
> > not get a copy of iosmash.c. You seemed to value our
> > resources at that 
> > point in time...
> >
> > ->Return-Path: <d4yj4y () yahoo com>
> > ->Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 11:36:51 -0800 (PST)
> > ->From: Day Jay <d4yj4y () yahoo com>
> > ->Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Re: Gary Coleman
> > Works for
> > ->Globalintersec!
> > ->To: KF <dotslash () snosoft com>
> >
> > ->looking for the freebsd exploit on the syskey...
> > ->Also, checking to see if any new exploits were
> > posted
> > ->on the site....
> >
> > kinda ironic I think...
> >
> >    
> >
> > > But at least, Snosoft can now call themselves
> > > Blackhats. Wohoo, another blackhat added to the
> > >      
> > list.
> >    
> >
> > > PHC up, hoes down.
> > >      
> > Better scratch that out... hats do not fit very well
> > on my afro.
> >
> > -KF
> >
> >
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